When I wrote my blog last week in support of Mike Huckabee, I didn’t know what I was getting into. My intention was to write two blogs, then go back to normal blog life, which for me doesn’t involve politics.
In a single day the blog had four times more hits than any day since I started it in June. Within 24 hours we’d received nearly forty comments, way more than usual, then we surged past fifty. I read these all by the way, and as a result checked out articles and watched videos of other candidates.
But the reader comment that most grabbed my attention was, “Pat Robertson just endorsed, formally, Rudy Giuliani. I would love your thoughts on that.” I found the video clip of Pat Robertson’s endorsement of Rudy G. That was the moment when things changed. This was no longer politics, which I dislike, it was a full-blown moral issue, full of biblical and theological and Christian implications. So I’ll put on hold what I’d planned to say in that second blog.
Meanwhile, this will be by far the longest blog I’ve ever done, really the length of an article. I tried to turn it into two blogs, but it just didn’t flow. So, you have options. First, feel free not to read it. Second, read it in two or more sessions, at your own pace, rather than straight through.
In answer to the question of what I think about Robertson’s endorsement of Giuliani, I think Robertson is absolutely wrong. That’s what this blog is about. (I remind you again I speak here not as the head of Eternal Perspective Ministries, but as an individual citizen.)
Over the years, I have sometimes appreciated Pat Robertson, and often disagreed with him. Now I am truly saddened for him. I shake my head in wonder at what has happened to him and other Christians who once stood up for innocent lives and moral concerns, but whose devotion has now shrunk to social conservativism and Republicanism. That an evangelical spokesperson—though I’m not sure who Robertson really represents anymore—would turn his back on unborn children to endorse Giuliani, who favors legalized abortion, is tragic.
Before we go further, none of this will make sense to you if you don’t understand why abortion is such a big deal. The still pic at the left is a 3D sonogram of a child in the womb. This link is to a beautiful slide show of living unborn children at various stages of development.Here’s another slide show, also beautiful, a worship experience to see these babies created in God’s image. These and the photos in this blog are all of living children in the womb.
In contrast to the above, here is a link to pictures of what an abortion really does to children. Warning: these are not made up photos; they are not exaggerated. They are real. This is simply what abortion is. Uncloaked, uncovered, unimaginably horrible. If these pictures, rather than banners and balloons, were hung alongside Rudy Giuliani and every candidate who defends legal abortion, we would turn away in horror at the evil of this position.
If, like many, you get upset about the fact that people would post these pictures or that I would link to them, I suggest you reserve your outrage for those who defend the right to commit such atrocities against children. It is not the photos that are immoral—it is abortion that is immoral. The photos only tell the truth most of us don’t want to see. It is the height of hypocrisy to support a candidate who defends legalized abortion, while getting mad at people who show the truth about abortion because the truth is so horrible.
Now, if you are prochoice, I’m nearly certain you didn’t click on the link showing what an abortion is. My question is, why would it be hard for you to watch something that you defend as being okay? If you are willing to stand up for the legal right to do something, shouldn’t you be willing to look at what that something really is? We hate the pictures because they tell the truth—that abortion is not a merely word on a page or in a debate, it is a horror inflicted upon children.
If you say you are prolife, but you are considering supporting Rudy Giuliani, or any candidate of any party who favors legalized abortion, I pray you will go back and click on that video you passed on. Because if you really saw what abortion is and what it does to a child, I don’t think you would defend anyone’s right to it. If you refuse to look at what abortion is, you simply will not “get it.”
God’s Word says of the innocent, “precious is their blood in his sight” (Psalm 72:14). He sees their blood, even if you and I turn away from it. (Having forced myself to watch that video today, though I’ve seen many like it, I wept and cried out to God to bring deliverance and justice to His children.)
Now, if abortion were the only issue, it would easily be enough to convince me not to vote for Giuliani. Ironically, there are other issues, ones that I find it incredible a “family values” advocate such as Robertson could ignore.
The New York Daily News reports that Giuliani is still alienated from his young adult children, daughter 18 and son 21, and rarely spends time with them. It has been difficult for them to accept their father’s adulterous relationship that led to a divorce from their mother. Many of us remember when Giuliani, still married, appeared publicly at galas with his girlfriend, when his children were aged 13 and 16. His children say that in the last number of years their father hasn’t been part of their lives. Understandably, they do not intend to support him in his campaign.
This is Giuliani’s third marriage. Now, I know dear people who are divorced and alienated from grown children, and I do not judge them, and would never single them out. But they are not running for public office and asking for my vote. Rudy Giuliani is.
Even the secular world sees the hypocrisy of Christians getting behind Giuliani. CBS correspondent Bob Scheiffer claims he has a helpful anonymous source he goes to in the evangelical community. Here’s what Scheffier said in his Face the Nation Commentary.
When Robertson announced he was supporting Rudy Giuliani, who is for so many of the things that Robertson has spent his life railing against—gay rights and abortion rights to name just two—I decided to go back to my high-level source with the obvious question: Why? There was a long pause.
Finally, my source said “God only knows.”
Really, what are secular people to think? All the years that Christians have said unborn babies were precious, their lives were sacred, marriage between a man and a woman was sacred, marriage vows were sacred and family was sacred….were they just kidding? Because now some of the same Christians are saying “we support for president a man who has demonstrated that none of those are sacred to him.”
So what is sacred now? Being conservative? Being a Republican? Please. I am a disciple of Jesus.
Robertson promises Giuliani will lead the way against terrorism. But what would he do that most of the other Republican candidates, and perhaps one or more of the Democrats, wouldn’t do? And why is he unconcerned about the acts of terrorism committed against millions of unborn children across the country and in his own city? Why should we expect God to defend the cause of a nation that kills His children?Giuliani said in his speech to the Values Voters Summit (I read every word of the transcript this week), “People of good conscience come to different conclusions about whether abortions should be legal in some circumstances.”
Actually, those with a good conscience cannot believe in the evil that it’s okay to cut babies to pieces. They may be sincere, but if they are, then they are deceived. A conscience that is deceived can be earnest, but it cannot be good. Giuliani’s statement is no different than saying “People of good conscience come to different conclusions about whether it should be legal to kill toddlers in some circumstances.”
Let me respond to the people, including some who commented on last week’s blog, who are adamantly ABC (Anybody But Clinton). Here’s a quote:
Christian Conservatives must decide on who is best to beat Hillary. That is THE most important point. Huckabee is great, but he WILL not beat Hillary. Whomever wins the Republican nomination must be supported by ALL Republicans. If we step back because we don’t like the candidate we as Christians will be voting in Hillary Clinton. This CANNOT happen.
I mean no disrespect, but actually, yes, there ARE worse things than Hillary being elected. In my opinion, having to stand before God to answer for compromising biblical convictions and acting as moral hypocrites by voting for an unprincipled man who will not defend the innocent and care for his own family is far worse. God will not judge me in light of whether I’ve followed conservativism or promoted Republicanism, but as to whether I have honored my Lord Jesus.
Jesus said if we love Him, we should keep his commandments. These include His commandments about the sanctity of life. As Christians we need to ask ourselves, do we love Jesus more than we dislike Hillary Clinton?
My daughter Angela sent me a note this week which I totally agree with: “I’m still going to believe that God is on his throne even if Hillary is elected.” If Giuliani and Clinton face each other in an election there would be some policy and philosophy differences, but what would be their fundamental differences in morality and faith and personal integrity? A vote for the lesser of evils is still a vote for evil.
There are other options. At least a couple of them are prolife, and the one with the best chance of winning, I think, is Mike Huckabee. But regardless of what we think about his chances, why would we not choose someone who we have reason to believe will live by God-honoring principles and stand for the unborn and marriage and family and religious freedom whether in victory or defeat?
You have no control over who in the end votes for Hillary Clinton. You do have control over who you vote for. You won’t be held accountable for someone else voting for a pro-abortion candidate. You will be held accountable if you vote for such a candidate. “But he was a Republican, Lord,” you may say at the judgment seat. “But I’m not a Republican,” Jesus may say. “I’m the original Independent.”
Sacrifice children on the altar of Republicanism? I won’t do it. The children aren’t expendable. The Republican party is. The logic that we’ll really save lives because fewer will die under Rudy than Hillary doesn’t cut it. No, I’ll vote for someone who won’t sacrifice children on the altar of expedience, pragmatism, partisanship or economic philosophy. And I won’t consider it a wasted vote, because if the two options on a ballot so blatantly dishonor Christ and His values, then the real waste would be voting for one of them.
To some this is naïve and impractical. But if we acted according to principle and conscience, if we stopped selling out because of our premature analysis of “electability,” if we did it God’s way instead of ours, maybe we would be coming over to His side rather than expecting Him to come over to ours. Maybe then we would receive God’s approval. That’s what will matter in the last day. And that’s what should most matter to us now. Please—it is really too much to ask that a national leader opposes the legalized killing of children?
I will take the time to insert relevant Scripture, because without it we are always confused. Please meditate on it:
If the people of the community close their eyes when that man gives one of his children to Molech…I will set my face against that man and his family and will cut off from their people both him and all who follow him… (Leviticus 20:1-5)Every Christian must take these teachings seriously. Is the candidate’s stand on the issue of shedding innocent blood important enough to disqualify him as a candidate? Yes. While a single issue can’t qualify a candidate, it can disqualify him. Clearly this issue disqualifies Rudy Giuliani. I don’t think someone is a good candidate just because they are pro-life. But they cannot be a good candidate unless they are prolife.
Do this so that innocent blood will not be shed in your land, which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty of bloodshed. (Deuteronomy 19:10)
He sent them to destroy Judah…Surely these things happened to Judah according to the Lord’s command, in order to remove them from his presence because of the sins of Manasseh and all he had done, including the shedding of innocent blood. For he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, and the LORD was not willing to forgive. (2 Kings 24:2-4)
There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood… (Proverbs 6:16-19)
Therefore as surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I will give you over to bloodshed and it will pursue you. Since you did not hate bloodshed, bloodshed will pursue you. (Ezekiel 35:6)
John Piper takes this same position.
A few final thoughts. First, regarding electability: Instead of waiting to see who’s likely going to win, why not actually influence the election by getting behind someone we think is the right person, so they might become electable?
According to the Rassmussen report, Huckabee has edged past both McCain and Romney, putting him behind only Giuliani and Thompson, with upward momentum. His probable showing against Democratic opponents has steadily improved. Why don’t people stop saying he can’t win and get behind him, so he can win?
Is there a time for pragmatism? Sure. As long as you can stay within the realm of righteous principles, then go ahead and weigh pragmatic considerations, as a matter of wisdom. But there is no wisdom in unrighteousness. If you are tempted toward a pragmatic action that violates Scripture and conscience, do not succumb to that temptation. To do so is sin.You must decide whether the killing of children pleases God or displeases Him. If you believe it displeases him, only support those who will speak up for those children, and defend them from the shedding of innocent blood.
Truthfully, I think it’s a lot less complicated than we make it. One day we’ll look back and wonder why we thought we should make all the compromises we did.
“The LORD said, ‘What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.’“ (Genesis 4:10)
Randy Alcorn
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Comments:
Thank you for writing this! It is exactly what I've been saying for months. I so appreciate you taking the time to state the case so very plainly. May God bless you and your family and may He have pity on our nation, even if we don't deserve it!
Here's what people seem to be forgetting. We're in the primary stage of the election. We can pick the person who runs against the Democratic candidate/
Republican candidate. We don't have to pick "who we think can beat the other candidate"...we can vote our beliefs and for the candidate God has lead us to vote for...let Him worry about who's pitted against who!
Just get on your knees first, then vote second. Don't see with your eyes...see with His eyes.
Randy, thanks for taking the time to write this blog. I am very thankful for your leadership & writing. I just posted a quote from your book Heaven today on my blog. Press on.
AMEN!!! Praise God for your literary skills. You have crystallized my thoughts perfectly. In fact, while I am vehemently pro-life, your post hit me where it hurts (and I couldn't even watch the video). But I have been SCREAMING about the electability factor. Get behind him and he WILL be electable!!!
Thank you. You have said it well. Thank you for sharing what others are saying to you. Thank you for sharing the link to the organization that has the film entitled This is Abortion. I am not alone. Do not be a curse to the nations. Do not vote for anyone who will be a curse to this nation.
Does it really matter who is President if we won't stand with God?
Randy, I read your entire post out loud to my husband tonight, weeping as I read. Thank you for expressing exactly what we feel. As a nation, we don't deserve God's mercy, but we pray that He will extend it to us, and allow us to elect a man who will champion the cause of the unborn.
We were wondering your opinion of the NRLC endorsement for Sen. Thompson today. We had been a little discouraged about that, because, in that he will not promote the Human Life Amendment, or the Marriage Amendment, we cannot believe that he truly understands that these are moral issues, not political ones. His claim that these decisions should be left to the states to decide proves this. Fifty different definitions of "life," and "marriage," so we can all pick and choose which one we want.
Even the secular media has picked up on the fact that a vote for any of the top-tier candidates, except Gov. Huckabee, amounts to exactly the same presidential policy: send it to the states to decide. Here's a link to the story: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/06/post_182.html if you'd like to read the article.
NRLC repeated several times, both in the media and in letters sent to those who wrote them, urging them not to make this endorsement, that electability was a big factor, especially in the early states.
Today, though, CBS released a new poll showing that Huckabee is in a strong second place in Iowa (21%), within striking distance of a diminishing Romney (27%). Thompson didn't make double digits, polling at 9%. All the related data looks great for Gov. Huckabee, too. Here's the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/13/opinion/polls/main3497993.shtml
I would like to invite you over to www.HucksArmy.com, a volunteer grassroots campaigning site dedicated to helping Gov. Huckabee win the nomination, and the election. You will find yourself in familiar territory, among people who are passionate about the rights of the unborn, the importance of family values, and the goodness of the sovereignty of God.
Many blessings on you tonight,
Mary
Randy, I can't disagree with anything you've say regarding the sanctity of life and our duty as Christians to champion those who can't speak for themselves. I am also extremely disappointed that Robertson has chosen to support Giuliani. However, when it comes to our responsibility TO, and benefits FROM the state, I don't believe our faith teaches us that we have to get it ALL our way or else we don't participate at all.
For example, Paul didn't divest himself of the advantages of his Roman citizenship simply because the Roman government in occupation of Israel regularly did horrible and brutal things to innocent people as they imposed their law. In fact, as we know, they were largely responsible for allowing our Savior to be, in effect, lynched by an unruly mob. Yet, scripture clearly shows us Paul USED his Roman citizenship to his advantage in Acts 22:25 and Acts 16:37. Likewise, we have no record that any of the apostles told Cornelius the centurion of Acts 10 that he should NOT participate in such a brutal and evil government. In fact, Cornelius is remembered as a righteous and God-fearing man despite his association, employment and participation in such a historically brutal army and government.
All this to say, I don't think it's right for Christians to "take their ball and go home" if we can't have the best that we want from our government such as it exists at any point in time. Paul had to work within the boundaries of HIS government in HIS time, and we have to do the same in OUR time. In fact, we know that God declares that HE is the one who allows governments to rise and fall. We all simply must learn to function within the government we are presented with in our lifetime.
If Rudy Giuliani were to claim membership in “the church” as my brother, I would expect my church leadership to treat him much the same way Paul did when there was a sinner being tolerated in 1 Corinthians 5.
However, as a part of “the state” (just like Paul was a part of his state), even tho I hate much of what OUR government tolerates especially in regard to abortion (just as I'm sure Paul probably didn’t like about his government's brutality), I will still participate in the avenues that are available to me at this point in history. Again, just as Paul chose to do.
And if that means my only option in November is that I have to hold my nose and vote for Rudy vs. Hillary, I will do it based on my rights granted to me by a state, rather than my will being fully carried out as I would wish it to be carried out.
I am NOT endorsing Robertson's choice to endorse Giuliani. I think it was a grave mistake, maybe even a sin. But just a Paul and Cornelius the centurion chose to function as best they could in the government of their day, I will chose to function the best as I can in the government of MY day. And that may require for me to vote for Rudy Giuliani who has at least a “chance” of appointing the constructionist judges as he has promised. We know for sure we will not get the same judicial appointments from Hillary Clinton should she win the White House.
So, in effect, I see it a great sin to do nothing to stop Hillary, than to choose the best option available to me if it comes down to Rudy vs. Hillary.
God willing, we will have a different choice come November, but if Rudy is the lesser of two evils, I will have to go with that.
Thank you for writing this. It has been something I have struggled with in recent months. The whole "Who can beat Hillary?" argument. But it was simply not trusting God and His sovereignty over all things. Your post has pushed me firmly into this side of the debate. Honoring God and being obedient to His Word need to be the priorities, not fear of Hillary as President. Thank you for posting it!
Mr. Alcorn, I am a 19 year old voter, and I want to take this moment to thank you for highlighting what is truly at stake - that at the core, we are responsible to God and not a political party (or a worst case scenario) for who we vote for. May we be Christians who are willing to 'lose' for the glory of God.
Abortion was not delegitimized under the Presidency of Ronald Reagan. Neither has it been abolished under the governing of Both Presidents Bush. All of them were the darlings of the Republicans - I voted for all of them.
It is simplistic, probably, for me to say this - but God's plan is not to change the world through political governance - He is changing it through His church. His true church. And He has never called His people to compromise their moral values for the sake of political expediency or incremental progress.
My pastor is currently preaching on the Bema Seat Judgment - and currently is leaning to the "ABC" ideology. Your comment, "having to stand before God to answer for compromising biblical convictions and acting as moral hypocrites by voting for an unprincipled man who will not defend the innocent and care for his own family", is poignant. I will be sharing this article with him.
Thanks, Randy, for providing a biblically based reason for your views.
Everyone seems resigned to the fact that we will have to choose between Clinton or Giuliani. No one has even voted yet! Why don't we band together as Christians and get the word out and start living and acting as Christians are supposed too! If we did that we WOULD change the world.
Randy,
since you quoted me at least once in your article, I feel I must add to and clarify my statements as you and many others are missing an important point.
Dave has said it very well and I can't add much to that.
Yes, it is primary season, the time when we shake things out and up.
I am not against your points at all during this primary season, and I am very excited about the Huckabee campaign, as well as Thompson and Romney, all anti abortion.
When it comes time for the General Election, that is where my thinking will be altered slightly.
It's not as simple as "Anybody but Hillary" as President. It's who will alter the nation's policy on abortion?
If by some crazy reason, Republicans nominate Giuliani, which I point out, I am not for, he will have a chance to go against a very liberal, very pro-abortion candidate, whether it's Hillary or any other Democrat.
The new President will be nominated one and perhaps two Supreme Court justices. THEY are the ones who will determine the fate of abortion, not the President.
If a Democrat is elected, you can go to the bank that abortion will continue if not grow.
If a Republican, even an liberal Republican like Rudy is elected, abortion will be closer to being eradicated.
So, in summation, all of your points are right on, scripturally, morally and politically.
I will say it again, in the GENERAL election, if it comes down to a Republican of not the best choice, versus ANY Democrat, I will vote Republican so that I won't have to face my God with the knowledge that I elected an pro-abortion President who will nominate pro-abortion judges by my voting for a third party candidate or not voting at all.
That would be a sin.
God is in control, you bet your sweet bippy! God also expects His people to use the wonderful brain He gave them as well as bathe all of this in prayer and fasting.
thanks Randy for your words they were great and right on.
I am a solid Huckabee supporter and will be. I have spent thousands on his campaign both in donations and buying materials to sell etc..
I would rather have Hillary in the white house for 4 years than Rudy or Romney.
Romney's mormonism is a problem for me. He may not promote it but the church he belongs to will for sure. Which will lead more people away from Christ.
Rudy for obvious reasons. Also the GOP will come back in 4 years with a STRONG person that can beat hillary with pro life beliefs etc.. The right wing of the party would be DEAD if Rudy is elected.
I appreciate your article and candid words very much. I pray that many Republicanists will encounter this article. I especially appreciate your clarity on the "anybody but Clinton" approach, which is certainly a hypocritical compromise of one's personal integrity. I was thinking though... if she wins, will it be all that bad? I'm not convinced she will accomplish ANYTHING in office... including anything horribly bad. One significant concern I have is obviously the appointment of a strict constructionist judge to the supreme court, and she would certainly ruin this opportunity. But, all-in-all, she would get much less damage done than Guiliani. In a way, I almost hope she would be elected over Guiliani if it came down to that in the general election. I'm going back to the Constitution Party if it comes to that.
Yes, abortion is an outrage. We should oppose it with all our heart and with all out strength and never give up in this battle. But war is an outrage, too. It's an outrage that 4 million people in Iraq have been displaced from their homes and that thousands of U.S. troops have been killed or maimed - all this in a war against a nation that had committed no violence against our country. And it's an outrage, too, that government fiscal policy is robbing citizens of their wealth through inflation. This is called stealing. It's an outrage that American jails are filled to overflowing and then some. I wish evangelicals had a broader social conscience. For these reasons, I won't be supporting Huckabee and I think it is a mistake to support him solely because he has a strong anti-abortion viewpoint. Rob
Thank you for writing this blog. I served as the director of our crisis pregnancy center years ago, but have let my passion for this issue grow cold in recent years. I have just gotten very involved with my own grandchildren. But it is important to see another generation take a stand on this issue. Someone copied this site to a Mike Huckabee's blog and I followed the link--May many others do the same.
Thank you. May God richly bless you and yours.
Yours in Christ,
Dave Tausch
Santa Rosa Beach, FL
Responding to Dave:
Would Paul have supported, endorsed or voted for the Roman leaders who were persecuting and martyring Christians? Even if it were the lesser of two evils? I would have a hard time believing that to be true.
Refusing to vote for a potential leader who supports legalized child sacrifice is not at all saying "that we have to get it ALL our way or else we don't participate at all."
I will continue to be involved in the election process whenever possible, but it is impossible for me to put my mark down in support of anyone who supports legalized child killing.
I have counseled, cried and prayed with too many women who have suffered from losing their children to abortion for me to consider voting for a candidate who supports it to because it is "the lesser of two evils." It is evil, there is no "lesser" about it.
Having signed my own name to documents that allowed doctors to kill two of my own children,which I regret with every fiber of my being, I will never sign my name to documents voting for a candidate who supports this legalized murder.
I have to disagree with voting for someone who doesn't have a track record of fighting against abortion. I won't vote for someone who doesn't have a consistent record on being pro-life. Christ is life! I could never vote for death. Just because Guilliani says he will appoint conservative judges doesn't mean he will. Does he have a record to back up that statement? I havn't researched this, but I hardly doubt that he does. Romney and Guilliani will both lose to Hillary since they arn't different enough from her. That leaves Huckabee as my only viable choice.
Randy,
Very informative.
Interesting...your abortion pictures appear to be "blocked due to gruesome content."
Thank you so much. You express our thoughts exactly. To compromise is to lose. We cannot really lose if we stay principled and focused on our God. I should have written when you endorsed Mike Huckabee to thank you then but was feverishly emailing friends and family to tell them about him. Thanks so much for the courage you showed and are showing. It truly has been wonderful to behold what God is doing. As so many others have said, may He have mercy on our nation even though we do not deserve it - For His Name's Sake.
Thanks for an excellent post on this issue. As a pro-life evangelical who teaches American Politics courses at the University level this is an issue I must deal with every semester.
I'm curious, however, as to what type of pro-life stance one must have to be considered fully pro-life? I mean, Fred Thompson received the endorsement of an pro-life group yesterday even though he disagrees with their position calling for a constitutional amendment to end abortion. Is it enough to oppose abortion but adopt a federalist position that says essentially "abortion is a state matter to be decided through democratic means."
Appreciate your thoughts.
BTW, is it ok to backlink from my blog to this article?
SDG
Rob
AMEN! AMEN! AND AMEN!!
I am with you.
This is sort of like what Dobson said when talking with Sean Hanity.
He could not put his name behind any candidate who followed 'Most' of the truths in the Word of God.
With this matter of morals there is no denying the Biblical stance. So I agree, I could never vote for someone who disagrees with a truth of the scripture.
Now if we disagree on how to manage war, debt other things then these would be flexible.
But for me Abortion is not a flexible issue but a truth displaying the persons inner character.
I am also extremely disappointed that Robertson has chosen to support Giuliani. But more surprising was the Right to Life group endorsing Thompson, who lobbied for the abortion companies just 15 years ago.
We must remember, God puts the leaders in power and He is still sovereign. We as Christians must stop relying on the government so much and more on God.
WOW! I hope everyone passes this blog to as many people as possible. Thanks Randy!
Randy, I agree with your post 100%. I am going to post your link everywhere to your website and blog! I do this anyway :) but this will now be done all over again! RIGHT ON!!!
Mary
To those who replied to me here, I can understand your POV, and believe me, I DON'T like Rudy in the least ... but if we are to stay absolutely pure in our devotion to our standards, and thus can't vote for Rudy. Should we not also look to where we spend our dollar? For instance, McDonald's gives a lot of corporate support to Planned Parenthood who fund abortions, should we all stop eating big Macs? Seven Eleven sells porno magazines, should we stop shopping there in protest? Walmart, Ford and others do the same. For heaven's sake, just about every company you can imagine has it's fingers in something we find morally objectionable. How and where do we draw the line?
I'm sorry, I can't see God telling me I compromised my values by voting for Rudy. He might have issues with some of my other poor choices in life, but not by offering a dying baby a weaker life line when a stronger life line wasn't available for me to offer. I will give that unborn baby the BEST life line I can give him. If that turns out to be Rudy over Hillary, I will do it. And will sleep soundly by doing it.
"So what is sacred now? Being conservative? Being a Republican? Please. I am a disciple of Jesus."
Mmmm.... Wow.... I read this entire blog in one sitting, and just wow. Thank you for standing up for Christ on such a controversial issue, in such a clear, beautiful way.
This is a post where I'm sure God looks down and says, "Son, I am well pleased." Maybe a tear comes from His eye, and He thanks you.
My husband and I have gotten rid of our television, and in turn, have become very distant from news and such, so to me, this was definitely news.
Having just gone through pregnancy, and spending time watching my daughter turn into a child, this blog really hit me in a deep place.
I just love what you say, and how poignant it is. Tears welled up, and I wanted to stand and shout to you, AMEN!
What is wrong with this world? I can't believe where we are going, and how crazy and liberal and lenient this world is getting with moral issues. Why are we putting people in jail for rape and murder, but not abortion??
Anyway, thanks for writing this in such a straight-forward way. It's too bad people get stuck in their prideful, self-defensive ways...
If only every one of us could remember every day that we really shouldn't have "rights." How selfish can we possibly be? Thinking we have rights when we cannot even remain faitfull and spotless to the one who gave His life so that we could live.
What love THAT is. Thanks for spreading THAT love.
Your thoughts are totally seconded. Christians should learn from Daniel and his friends. If they are so afraid of Hillary.
LZ
Randy, thanks for sounding a clarion call!
May I add that it is incumbent upon each believer to email their church friends and ask them to make sure THEY'RE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES. Do it now before the holidays hit -- the deadlines will be fast approaching for those states with early primaries.
(FYI, if you're seventeen and will be eighteen by the November election, YOU can register to vote AND VOTE IN THE PRIMARY even though you're only 17!!!)
Let everyone know that they can download a PDF voter registration form for their state by directing them to vote_smart.org and have them type in their zip code . . . it's really easy to get the form (make sure you have the latest Adobe version) and info. about your current officials. (Non-incumbent candidates who will be running will probably be posted late in the political season.)
Also, at vote_smart.org, check out state and national leaders issue rating positions by the candidate's name. You can REALLY FIND OUT A LOT about an incumbent through this site such as how they've voted on abortion-related bills, etc. You can even look up Hillary's, Obama’s and Edwards’s information (search for them by last name)!
Here's an example for one of my STATE delegates:
http://vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=6104
The biographical information about him at
http://vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=6104
is VERY informative.
It shows his involvement in NARAL!
ALSO, please DON'T WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO HELP NOTIFY OTHERS ABOUT CANDIDATE POSITIONS ;-).
If you have email, just BCC your contacts and let them know they can have an impact. I think that so many Christians may have forgotten their civics lessons and are very intimidated by even thinking they can become informed on the issues. Please don't be intimidated, it's okay to ask others for help in understanding the political process.
Please don't get too busy doing wonderful things for the Lord to not take notice of the important issues going on in each of our states that legislators are trying to push down our throats. In mine, there's same-sex marriage, increased funding for embryonic stem cell research, gambling, and more . . . and folks on the school board are continuing to push condoms and acceptance of homosexuality and transgenderism.
Don't rely on Christian-run voter scorecards to be able to educate believers . . . many candidates DON'T answer the questions.
Consider doing research from your local paper about local politicans and copy the online newspaper links to where the candidates answer questions such as abortion, same-sex marriage, gambling, etc.
Then, send this information out to your friends and family and remind them of the importance of voting with a biblical worldview in mind. You can direct them to Pray The Vote (Presidential Prayer Team) at http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ptv_homepage&JServSessionIdr012=wnuctklp62.app24a
Also, be sure to encourage your friends and family to contribute what they can to support good candidates. Even $20.08 is manageable for each person, like Huckabee mentions ;-). If you have to, skip a few drinks from Starbucks in order to contribute (of course, once you've given to your church).
Hope this helps to remind you that God can use EACH OF YOU to make an incredible difference!
Thanks again Randy for your timely blog thoughts!
Wow, Dad. I know how much thought, time, energy, and most of all prayer you put into these words. Thank you for being faithful to what God has called you to do, and I don't just mean on this blog. "Inasmuch as you have done it unto the least of these my brethren, you have done it unto Me." Thanks for speaking up for those who cannot speak for themselves.
People, if you believe it is a moral compromise to vote for Rudy Giuliani, if you believe the ABC argument (anybody but Clinton) is a cop out, then the very man many of you are supporting is promoting EXACTLY that agenda.
I am cutting and pasting a portion of the exact transcript of Mike Huckabee's response from the last GOP debate:
HUCKABEE: What's the difference? No matter which one of us is on this stage -- and, look, I like to be funny, let me be real honest with you. There's nothing funny about Hillary Clinton being president. Let me tell you why.
(APPLAUSE)
If she's president, taxes go up, health care becomes the domain of the government, spending goes out of control, our military loses its morale, and I'm not sure we'll have the courage and the will and the resolve to fight the greatest threat this country's ever faced in Islamofascism.
(APPLAUSE)
We've got an enemy that wants to kill every last one of us. We cannot be soft. We must be strong.
We'll sign crazy bills like the Law of the Sea Treaty and give away our sovereignty.
And that's why, with all of the fun we're going to have talking about it, there's nothing funny about Hillary being president.
The ONLY thing you can surmise from that reply is, Mike believes that the ABC plan is BETTER than having Hillary in office.
Here is the source:
http://tinyurl.com/ys25sp
To quote Dave above me:
To those who replied to me here, I can understand your POV, and believe me, I DON'T like Rudy in the least ... but if we are to stay absolutely pure in our devotion to our standards, and thus can't vote for Rudy. Should we not also look to where we spend our dollar? For instance, McDonald's gives a lot of corporate support to Planned Parenthood who fund abortions, should we all stop eating big Macs? Seven Eleven sells porno magazines, should we stop shopping there in protest? Walmart, Ford and others do the same. For heaven's sake, just about every company you can imagine has it's fingers in something we find morally objectionable. How and where do we draw the line?
I'm sorry, I can't see God telling me I compromised my values by voting for Rudy. He might have issues with some of my other poor choices in life, but not by offering a dying baby a weaker life line when a stronger life line wasn't available for me to offer. I will give that unborn baby the BEST life line I can give him. If that turns out to be Rudy over Hillary, I will do it. And will sleep soundly by doing it.
This is so profound, dave.
Randy I love you and pray for you constantly, you're involvement in my best friend's healing process was above and beyond the call, but I must point out one problem with your blog entry.
You said that this is "not from the Director of EPM, but from an indivdual". I am sorry but you may want that but that is NOT TRUE. Your name alone is why there are people reading this blog. Do you think you can try to separate your ministry from your personal life by writing a blog?
NO, you can't. Many people write about their grandkids, fishing trips, dogs etc on their blogs. No one reads them except a few friends and family. YOUR name IS EPM and Randy Alcorn is EPM. You cannot separate the two.
I would firmly advise you, as a Christian brother, to step away from the blogging and continue your writing.
By endorsing a candidate, EPM has endorsed a candidate.
You and many who read this may not like that fact but it is the fact.
Pat Robertson may have personally endorsed Rudy, does that mean the 700 Club endorsed him? Maybe not, but unfortunately in the world the answer is YES. Pat IS the 700 Club.
Same case here.
Just some advice from one who knows and cares about you and your family, and I think if you look hard enough, you will find that I am attached to someone you know and love very much too, and that person sends his desire for you to separate yourself from this political mess and write your books.
To Dave (and Bill who quoted him)
>>>but if we are to stay absolutely pure in our devotion to our standards, and thus can't vote for Rudy. Should we not also look to where we spend our dollar? For instance, McDonald's gives a lot of corporate support to Planned Parenthood who fund abortions, should we all stop eating big Macs? <<<
I kinda want to say, "well, duh!" Of course we should be careful where our $$ go and if it is a fact that a company such as McDonalds sends charitable funds to Planned Parenthood, we should do everything in our power to avoid supporting them by eating Big Macs. And I'm sure I don't need to point out the obvious health benefits.:-)
To Bill:
Whoa, Nellie! I have to question your motives here on why you would want Randy to stop blogging and go back to writing his books. (Though I'm all for the book writing) You say you know and care about his family. Do they want him to stop blogging? Is it wrong that he voices his support of Mike Huckabee as a private citizen,even though you claim this isn't possible? Is he wrong to have voiced his opinion on Pat Robertson/Rudy G.? Is he doing something unethical, immoral or illegal here?
Or is it just that you disagree on a point or two?
And, seriously, to bring up an unnamed person who also sends his desire for Randy to quit blogging and just write his books? What is that about? It didn't sound straightforward and forthright, but seemed a rather underhanded and stealthy way to make a point.
We should thank Randy for writing in his blog and bringing up so many valid and profound points, organizing interview clips as well as giving all of us a place to discuss the issues and differences of opinions we have. (Thank you Randy)
Peoples' opinions have grown and changed. I know in my household a strongly held POV has eroded over the last few days, partly because of Randy's blog and partly because of the holes in the arguments on the opposing side.
Randy seeks daily to follow hard after Jesus with his life, and that is why his opinion is respected and valued, not only because he heads up EPM and writes books. There is no reason he cannot speak out as a private citizen.
Diane
Thank you for writing this. I e-mailed the link to several people and included some quotes from it in my blog.
didilyn:
you may be unaware of the IRS rules governing non profits.
An example: your pastor, much ashe might want to, cannot by law endorse a candidate from the pulpit. That would then cause the 501c3 status to be in jeopardy.
Whether he and his church chooses to do that is up to them and some have.
EPM and Randy Alcorn are in the same 501c3 status if I am not mistaken.
So, I wrote what I did for his benefit. I have no problem or even really a disagreement with Randy writing a blog. I am just warning him to be cautious. As a public figure from a non profit organization, he must separate his personal from his corporate status.
That is not nice, but it is the law, or at the very least the letter of the law.
Again, writing about dogs, grandchildren, trips etc, just great, making political endorsements, not good for the non profit status.
I won't say anymore, as I don't want to upset anyone. I love Randy and his work. It is of the Lord.
Hi Randy
Thank you so much for your excellent post that shows that we are engaged not so much in a political struggle but rather in a moral pursuit that far outweighs other considerations.
Though you didn't know it you have "come with me" on several of my recent vacations.Two years ago I had the life changing expereince of reading "Safely Home" while I was in Africa. It was so moving that when I returned I wasn't sure whether I had visited China or Africa! Currently I am on vacation in Hawaii and am reading "Deception" which has me on the edge of my seat (or beach chair as the case may be). Thank you so much for your ministry in writing. Thanks especially right now for your endorsement of Governor Huckabee. I was at the Values Voters Summit in Washington a few weeks ago and after hearing all the other candidates share their vision for America, I heard Mike share his heart for 30 minutes that resonated so much with me that I felt a special call from the Lord to support him in any way I could. What is going on now seems to me not the work of men but the gracious work of a soverign God that will give us as a nation another chance with a godly President in the person of Mike Huckabee. There are indeed some things which are not negotiable. Mike's stand for the unborn is clear and strong. We need to all rally around him and recognize that God can do great and mighty things! Thanks again for your endorsement and I hope we have the opportuity to chat sometime soon.
Hi again Bill,
You are right, I may be unaware of all the rules governing nonprofits.
But I bet Randy IS aware of them. He is a pretty thoughtful guy.
Thanks for clarifying your motives.
Diane
To DidiLyn,
First, my heart goes out to you for what you've gone through, and I sympathize with the feelings of wanting to stop this moral outrage of abortion. But you can't purify your life and your vote by skipping a few big macs or not voting for Rudy. You would have to examine EVERY business in the country and where they spend their dollar.
Look, the bottomline is, as I mentioned in a subsequent posting, even Mike Huckabee has suggested that stopping Hillary is the baseline goal. Certainly doing more than that is the higher goal, but keeping Hillary OUT of office is a MUST. And I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on a Giuliani/Huckabee ticket if it comes to that. Who knows, Jim Guy Tucker had to leave office early in Arkansas. Maybe Rudi will have to step down too, thus leaving us with Huck as prez.
Thanks Dave. I appreciate your heart in this.
I do believe that we are called to make every effort to be pure and not to throw in the towel when the task looks too formidable or the going gets tough. (James 4:8)
If we know of a business that gives to Planned Parenthood, we avoid that business. I am not willing to knowingly give money to them. Does that sound over-the-top to you?
As for figuring out all the tangled political web, I would just say that God has called us to simply look to Him, follow and trust Him with the future. We're glad, and relieved, to be able to do this.
Randy said it best in the post:
>>>No, I’ll vote for someone who won’t sacrifice children on the altar of expedience, pragmatism, partisanship or economic philosophy. And I won’t consider it a wasted vote, because if the two options on a ballot so blatantly dishonor Christ and His values, then the real waste would be voting for one of them.
To some this is naïve and impractical. But if we acted according to principle and conscience, if we stopped selling out because of our premature analysis of “electability,” if we did it God’s way instead of ours, maybe we would be coming over to His side rather than expecting Him to come over to ours. Maybe then we would receive God’s approval. That’s what will matter in the last day. And that’s what should most matter to us now. <<<
Thanks again,Dave.
Diane
Hi Diane,
Hey, I know you are doing what you think is right in your heart. I believe God will honor your heart attitude towards you personally.
I just don’t think we will be doing a service to the unborn by allowing Hillary to win the White House. Whatever Rudy’s attitude is, if he appoints “constructionist” judges as he’s promised, he will be doing the nation AND the unborn a GREAT service. And that service could last for 30 years.
Conversely, if Hillary appoints liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg types of justices, the damage can last for GENERATIONS.
I do not believe that voting is about our faith. Our faith can and SHOULD be reflected in our vote, but it’s not about our faith. You don’t disrespect your faith by voting for your best option available to you. However, you CAN miss an opportunity to further the values of your faith by refusing to participate in the process.
I also believe Huckabee has already stated that stopping Hillary is our minimum goal in 2008.
If you saw a child in a crosswalk in the path of a speeding car that is about to kill him, would you tell Rudy Giuliani NOT to push that child out of the way of that train because he is a sinful and flawed man? Hillary has said she will just stand there and let the car crush the child, Rudy has said he will appoint crossing guards who will push the child to safety.
I am voting for a man who will take care of giving me the best crossing guards, I am not voting for my next pastor.
The choice is VERY clear to me.
I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend, but I marvel at those who can't see it as clearly.
Politics is politics.
Faith is faith.
If our faith can influence politics, praise be to God!
But if we don't do anything, we have sidelined ourselves. And thus by our inaction, have done our part to let evil flourish.
I applaud you. It's sad to me, that so many Christians seem to have lost just what it is that we stand for.
I forwarded your last blog to many people because I had not heard of Mike Huckabee previously. I now support him and this morning on the "Today Show" heard that he had a "surprisingly" good week last week. It's the first I've heard of him in the news. We need to get more vocal about just what it is we want. We CAN make a difference.
Like many other Bible-believing Christians, I agree along with God that abortion is evil. No, it is not a necessary evil to destroy innocent children.
Not to be a sensationalist, but I do believe that starting this year we will see the decline of the United States at a more accelerated pace. The foreigners have increased around us, wave after wave of natural disasters abound us, cursed is our bread and kneading bowl (the economy), and we are beset with violence without (war on several fronts), and within (urban violence). The biggest kicker had to be the overwhelming, sudden decline of our economy in the last several months. The United States is not in Bible prophecy and anyone who says we are is only guessing!
http://thecommonchristian.blogspot.com
Randy,
Thank you so much for this post. You are one of the most clear thinking, straight talking people I’ve ever read. I have learned so much from you by reading your books, and I continue to learn (and feel God’s blessings) from reading your blog. I have to chuckle a bit at the folks blogging on this site who are concerned about your 501c3 status. They don’t get you – that your position on the sanctity of life is more important than anything the IRS might say or do. As if somehow you might be silenced about speaking out against abortion by the threat of an IRS ruling. People who think that just don’t know who you really are.
Having said that, I’m not concerned about your 501c3 status with EPM. A person doesn’t waive their First Amendment right to free speech as an individual merely because their organization is awarded non-profit status by the IRS, although the Enemy and his minions would like all Christians to think as much.
One of the first things I seem to remember learning from you was the value of absolute truth. I seem to remember an article you wrote on the subject several years ago in an EPM newsletter (loaned to me by a friend). My guess is that Rudy doesn’t believe in absolute truth, but instead has a sliding scale of morality. For people like that, every moral decision is driven by facts and circumstances of a particular situation. That’s how he can say on the one hand that he is pro-abortion, but on the other hand would nominate strict constructionist judges who would probably vote pro-life. A couple of comments about that: 1) Since when do we believe that politicians can be trusted to keep their campaign promises (Rudy would not be accountable to anyone if he failed to appoint strict constructionist judges); and 2) Every politician on the planet will say there is no litmus test for appointing Supreme Court judges, and so there’s no guarantee that any alleged strict constructionist judge would be in favor of repealing Roe v. Wade.
For all you other readers of this blog, if you would like to learn more about the Biblical view of abortion, there are numerous resources. In addition to Randy, another passionate prolife advocate is John Piper. John does a sermon on abortion every year and has for about 20 years now. Like Randy, John is not afraid of a fight or afraid to speak out from the pulpit. If you would like some good reasons why, as a Christian, you should stand firm against abortion, listen to Piper’s sermons. Almost all of John’s sermons are available on the web for free and can be downloaded at:
Link to John Piper Sermons on Abortion
Randy – keep up the good work!!! May our Lord Jesus Christ himself and God our Father, who loved us and by his grace gave us eternal encouragement and good hope, encourage your hearts and strengthen you in every good deed and word. (2 Thes. 2:16-17).
YIC
Paul
Looks like I didn't get the link right on Piper's web site. Try cutting and pasting this instead:
http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByTopic/47
Apologies!
Paul
Excellent, Randy. Thank you for not shirking when it comes to saying the truth. So many times we get distracted by what is expedient or what might seemingly "work," and we forget what really matters in the sight of our Lord.
Though I check in with Google News fairly regularly, as a mother discipling nine young pro-lifers (thus far), I somehow missed the story of Pat Robertson endorsing Rudy Giuliani.
This is particularly bizarre, incomprehensible and grievous to me as it was Pat Robertson -- close to twenty years ago, voicing bold support of Operation Rescue's peaceful and prayerful rescue efforts -- that God used to bring me into the pro-life movement and convict me of my responsibility to speak for those who cannot speak for themselves and rescue those unjustly sentenced to death.
I remember the morning. I was twenty years old and still a newborn believer. In the middle of putting on my mascara, getting ready for work, I heard Robertson saying, "If you believe abortion is murder, you must act like it's murder", the motto of Randall Terry and O.R..
It is heartbreaking to see that picture of Mr. Robertson and Mr. Giuliani gleefully and vigorously shaking hands.
We have all fallen short. Lord, please have mercy upon us!
Mrs. Ruthanne Shepherd
www.shepherdsjourney.com
Randy, this is the best articulation I have seen of this position yet. With no remorse, I will watch the Republican party go the way of the Whigs who phased out of existence after they refused to take a stand on slavery in the 1800s. I made up my mind even before last election that I'll be voting the Constitution party if the Republicans can't provide a pro-life candidate who fears God. It's one of the easiest decisions I've ever made.
Mr. Alcorn,
I do not always agree with what you say or what you write, but when it comes to the children - as it has in your latest blog entry, I believe that we can stand together - as Christians.
I am 21 and a fellow Oregonian and author of children's literature.
The following essay is something that I wrote after recently doing research on the Holocaust and also reading your blog entry regarding Pat Robertson.
Shalom.
1942 GERMANY
The radio in the parlor blares the news of victory after victory by the nazis. A young man sits by and listens in horror as the reports come in of cities falling, of lives lost, of death and madness rampant across his beloved nation.
"Where are the Christians?" he stands and cries.
The children are hauled off to work camps. The Jews are lined up and shot. The symbol of the Cross is banned from schools. Even places of worship are no longer safe, as they fall, one by one, torched by the enemy to ruins of ashes and rubble.
Where are the Christains?
The cry echoes throughout history as those who profess to be cower and hide and wait for better days. The people's souls are scarred. Their hearts fill with terror. The destruction is boundless, it seems. But who can stop it?
Where are the Christians?
There is a holocaust wrought on our land against the most innocent ones. There is a war waged on our soil that shames our souls before all of Heaven. Don't you hear? The blood of the children cries out. Will we cover our ears and avert our eyes? We can't look the other way, say that we love rather than hate, if we will not stand for the innocent. Their blood cries out. It can not be silenced by our hypocrisy. It is not forgotten by the One we love.
"Where are the Christians?" I cry.
But the answer that comes brings me to my knees in despair. Those who claim to be "christian" are murderers too. Does Robertson's stance appall you? Look at your own! Look at your nation! Are we a righteous nation? Are we a part of this nation that is not?
Where are the "christians"?
They are killing our children - they are aiding the enemy.
Where are the protectors of the children? Where are the Righteous ones of honor and justice and passionate Truth? Are they no more?
Where are the Christians?
The cry rings throughout history as a call to you. It lingers in the clear, clean air of peace and in the smoke filled air of war-lit skies.
Where are the Christians?
The Ten Commandments are gone from our schools and our courts. Prayer is banned from the classrooms and playing fields of our young people and heroes alike. Is this so different from what happened not so long ago? Do the people of professed conviction still fail to fight for what is right and good and pure?
Where are the Christians?
We are not so safe from the war that is waged against the weak. With medical costs rising and national funds running low, who do you think will be next on the list of lives unwanted by society? Who is next to lose their rights to live? We are. And if not us, our children.
Where are the Christians?
Are they sequestered away in churches? Where is His Love in our lives if we forget the lives that are lost and the blood that is shed? In the words of a young resistance fighter of WW2: "Should we stand here with empty hands at the end of the war when they ask the question: 'And what did you do?' "
I say, "No!" Let us not be as apathetic as those who came before - as those who failed to act. Let us be Just and non-violent in our approach, but let us also be courageous and steadfast and relentless in our passion to overcome the evil that rules our nation! Let us lay down our lives at the alter and fight for the children, fight against the evil that slays their lives and their souls with the help of religious cowardice and apathy.
Where are the Christians?
On their knees, I pray! We need to pray Psalm 51 daily until we are clean of guilt and bloodshed and cowardice and greed. We need to willingly sacrifice of ourselves. We need to go to the Cross and lay down our lives for the children - spend our lives as He spent His for us. We need to have a heart for the children that reveals His Heart to them in depth.
Where are the Christians?
The cry resounds throughout America, throughout this beloved nation, under God, as lives are lost and innocence is destroyed.
Will you answer?
I will vote for a 3rd party candidate before I vote for Rudy. Ditto for Mitt Romney. I'm very scared that this next election very well could be choosing between the lesser of two evils.
A candidate's position on abortion is a major factor in my decision of who gets my vote. I can more easily support Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee before I can ever throw my support to Rudy.
Rachel
Thanks for your clear and principled post. I hope that you will seriously consider Mike Huckabee for your choice. He is by far the best pro-life candidate in the group. Unlike John McCain He is against embryonic stem cell research , unlike Fred Thompson he is for the constitutional amendment regarding the sancity of human life, unlike Mitt Romney he has always been a consistent force for the pro life cause. While Governor he led the annual March for Life. While Governor he led the passage of much pro life legislation. It isn't a side issue to him, in fact it is the reason he got into politics. Check out his issues on his web site - also his You Tube videos. I also think his ability to communicate will lead him to the nomination and to victory in November 08. I can't wait to see him go against Hillary Clinton in the debates! Sorry if I went too long - as you can see I'm very passionate about this!:) The Lord bless you as you make your choice.
thank you Randy.
I sincerely respect everyone's view here; however, I'm with Dave on this one.
On voting day, IF it comes down to voting for Hillary, Guiliani, or leaving it blank, I will check Guiliani.
The reality is that there is a much greater chance that fewer unborn children will die if Rudy is elected as opposed to Hillary.
Your non-vote in that scenario, in my humble opinion, is a stubborn surrender to reality.
God Bless you all.
Very respectfully,
Joe
For those of you who are interested in supporting Mike Huckabee for president, please contact me. There is a Portland area meetup group and we just had our first meeting. It's an awesome bunch and we'd love to have you on board!
You can contact me at jolinn@nw-connection.com.
Thanks,
JoLinn Kampstra
I am pro life too, but am pro ALL life, not just the unborn.
I don't know how anyone can call George Bush pro life when he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Amerians, Iraqis and countless others through his unjust war in Iraq.
Those who voted for him because of his "anti-abortion" views, put a man into office who signed the death warrant for tens of thousands of lives.
Please consider all issues when selecting a candidate, not just a single issue. Please select a candidate who respects ALL life, born and unborn.
I am pro life too, but am pro ALL life, not just the unborn.
I don't know how anyone can call George Bush pro life when he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of Amerians, Iraqis and countless others through his unjust war in Iraq.
Those who voted for him because of his "anti-abortion" views, put a man into office who signed the death warrant for tens of thousands of lives.
Please consider all issues when selecting a candidate, not just a single issue. Please select a candidate who respects ALL life, born and unborn.
Ah, thank you so much Randy. My heart resonates deeply with what you have written.
Holly
www.seekingfaithfulness.wordpress.com
Well, despite our disagreements here, we do agree on supporting Huckabee. For that reason, I've made some posters and web graphics available for interested parties at: http://davidball.net/huckabee/
Merry Christmas, All!!
Thanks, Randy, for the work you're doing. I'll admit that I was waffling on what I'd do should I be forced to choose between two pro-choice candidates. You've helped me settle that. Like you, I'll write in, but cannot vote for someone who supports such horror. Thank you for your courage. Every blessing!
"Thank you for your vote."
With love,
-- President Hillary Clinton
P.S. (from Hillary)... if it hadn't been for the 3rd party write in and protest votes, I wouldn't have won the election. Now, let's see... I think I have 3 Supreme Court justices to nominate..."
Thanks again for the blog- the bottom line for now is that we have to do all we can to get the true pro-life candidate, Mike Huckabee, nominated so that we won't have to face that horrible choice.
Hi Gang, It's been a while since any one posted here. But it's not looking good for our hero, Mike Huckabee. I'm not thrilled with any of my other GOP choices, but plan B for me is to access the probabilities of getting pro-life judges appointed from Hillary or Obama versus any of the potential GOP nominees. Keep praying and hopefully working for a Huckabee win. But I seriously hope you have a plan B in the bag.
Don't give up the ship on Mike Huckabee! When Super Tuesday rolls around he'll have a block of southern states, if the other candidates divide up the rest of the states, Mike will have instant viability and we can go on to victory from then. Lets not lose the "heart" in "I heart Huckabee"!
Well, it's a year later (since you first published this blog posting) who's gonna get your vote in less than two weeks?
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