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Tuesday, November 06, 2007

Why I Support Mike Huckabee for President

First, some background, so you know where I’m coming from—and not. In fact, most of this blog will be background, and the following blog will deal more with Mike Huckabee and his opposing candidates.

I have never been into politics, though as a young pastor I saw political awareness and involvement as necessary. Then twenty years ago I had a terrible experience with a well-known politician in our church, who was widely considered by the Christian community to be a David standing against the Goliath of the secular media. (He used that terminology himself.) Unfortunately, he was not what he claimed to be.

As one of his pastors I knew the inside story. One day I heard him speaking on a Christian radio talk show, claiming the elders of his church were totally supporting his campaign for reelection. In fact, we had met with him and counseled him not to run, for some compelling personal reasons involving his family and Christian testimony.

On hearing the program I called my friend and fellow-pastor Stu Weber and said “unless you talk me out of it, I think God wants me to call in and ask him some questions.” Stu agreed, so I called and confronted this man in front of a large listening audience. While I tried to be gentle, I asked him if it was true that the elders of his church had asked him to step down from office due to issues in his personal life. He said that was not true. I said “I’m one of your elders, and it is true.”

To say the least, this was controversial, and I took a lot of heat for it, including from our Christian church attorney (who a year later abandoned his wife and children in an adulterous affair). But it was and is my belief that when someone is a public figure who takes his case to the citizenry, and lies about such things in the name of Christ, it is a church leader’s duty to refute his statements. Correcting a person’s public deception with publicly stated truth trumps the normally good principle of confidentiality.

I tell you this story because I admit this unforgettable experience colored my view of politics, and still tends to make me skeptical when I hear about Christian politicians. (Despite the fact that I know some very good ones.) I’ve often been disillusioned by insincere candidates, including professing Christians, who say whatever people want to hear, revising their message according to their audience.

Today, I am less enthusiastic about political parties than I’ve ever been. I’m a Republican largely because I adamantly oppose abortion. But my concern for the poor, racial justice and the environment—all of which have a strong biblical basis—make me sometimes identify more with the concerns of Democrats (though I don’t always agree on their proposed solutions). But I could never be a Democrat as long as that party remains hostile toward the rights of unborn children. Yes, there are prolife Democrats, but they are a small minority.

And by the way, if I had a choice between voting for a prolife Democrat and a prochoice Republican, I’d vote for the Democrat in a heartbeat. (No, child-protecting and child-killing aren’t the only issues, but I can never regard them as secondary; I might write in a third alternative, but I will never cast a vote for someone who won’t stand up for the right of unborn children to live, yes, even if I agree with them on every other issue.)

I am aware that there are other smaller political parties and though I’ve not chosen to do so, a good case can be made for joining them. My position on conservativism and liberalism is expressed in an article I wrote after the “Republican Revolution” of the mid-nineties, in which I stated that we should neither seek to be conservative nor liberal, just Christian. We should go wherever being a follower of Jesus takes us, regardless of whether it fits a label or a particular political party. There was plenty in that article to make both liberals and conservatives unhappy, and believe me, I heard about it.

I hope it’s become clear to you that there is no danger of this blog or its writer becoming very political! And, frankly, six months ago if you’d asked if I’d be endorsing a presidential candidate I would probably have said “no way,” because I couldn’t envision a candidate I would actually trust. However, God has called us to be good stewards of our opportunities, and to be His representatives in every area. And, contrary to my expectations, there actually is a candidate that I, a political skeptic, believe to be a man of integrity, wisdom, winsomeness, faith and yes, even eternal perspective.


Mike Huckabee has been married to Janet for 33 years. They have three grown children. He was a pastor, then a Baptist denominational leader, when he sensed God’s call into politics. In a 1993 special election, he won the Arkansas lieutenant governor position. He was re-elected to a full term in 1994. The incumbent resigned in 1996 and Huckabee was chosen to take his place as 44th governor of Arkansas; he was then elected to a full term in 1998 by the largest percentage that any Republican has ever received in that state, where less than one in four persons is a Republican. He was re-elected in 2002 for another four-year term. He’s only the fourth Arkansas Republican to be elected to a statewide office since Reconstruction.
In 2005, Huckabee was named one of Governing magazine’s Public Officials of the Year. He also received Time magazine’s recognition as one of the five best governors in America. His school accountability program has proven to be one of the finest in the nation.

I’m not going to list all his positions on issues, but many of them resonate with me. By the way, in voicing my support for Mike Huckabee, I’m doing so as a private citizen, not as the director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. EPM takes no position on a candidate, though we would certainly encourage everyone to vote in accord with biblical principles, which emphasize morality, integrity, character, wisdom and a Christlike spirit of truth and grace.

In my opinion, Huckabee doesn’t just know the words; he knows the music. You can see the authenticity in him. I heard him say, “I do not spell G-O-D G.O.P.” That means he’s a follower of Christ before he’s a follower of the Republican party. He’s not overbearing in his spiritual beliefs, but he never apologizes for them. He’s humble and self-effacing. He’s not in your face, yet he’s firm in conviction. I actually think this guy says what he believes and believes what he says. And I have to say, I don’t think that about most politicians.

He says some things that are unpopular and will lose him votes and he says them anyway—I love the courage that reflects. I recommend you check out a few of Huckabee’s video clips. Here’s an eight minute cross-section of some of his responses at the Republican debates, including to a question about God and evolution.
Read more about Huckabee and his positions at www.mikehuckabee.com. (Hey, he plays in a band, called Capital Offence.) At the recent Family Research Council’s Values Voters Summit, participated in by the other major Republican candidates (Democrats declined to attend), Huckabee won more votes from those actually hearing the candidates than all the rest of the field put together. Check out his interview with Charlie Rose, a good use of 50 minutes.

I appreciate Huckabee’s wit, sincerity, intelligence and wisdom. In his interviews, I like that he’s self-deprecating. He’s not an angry conservative. He’s winsome. And I get the feeling he’s not conservative to be conservative. I think he doesn’t care how he looks as much as whether he’s right— how he stands before God first, and people second. And he doesn’t just mouth the words “I’m prolife,” then fail to take measures to defend the unborn from destruction, as many nominally prolife politicians do.

I don’t agree with everything Huckabee says. And I’m sure he’s not the perfect candidate. No one is. But from what I’ve seen, I think he’s head and shoulders above the alternatives in any party. Call it subjective, since I’ve never met him, but I trust him. And I can’t support and recommend people I don’t trust.

While I would hate to be a politician, I have always thanked God for men and women who are called to that. So I thank God for Mike Huckabee. And especially when he labors to speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, I feel like the least I can do is support him.

I’ll devote one more blog to this, next week, focusing on whether Mike Huckabee is electable. My answer is, yes, IF those who believe in his positions would just step up and support him. (I confess I get impatient with Christian leaders who withhold support from the best candidates because other candidates, including prochoice ones, are supposedly more “electable.” If we’d just, on the basis of conscience, give support to people of God-honoring conviction instead of withholding it, some of them would become electable.)

Among other things, I’ll say a little bit more about why I don’t support the other candidates, Republican or Democrat. (Then I’ll go back to theological issues, or books, or stories, or tell you more about my grandchildren, or…..)

Randy Alcorn
www.randyalcorn.blogspot.com
www.epm.org

Comments:

All About Huck said...

Praise the Lord! Thank you for writing about your support for Mike Huckabee. You're blog was a great encouragement to me, as I am also a strong supporter. God bless you!

Victoria said...

Thank you for an outstanding explanation of your choice to support Mike Huckabee. I, too, have been disillusioned by candidates claiming to be Christian who then supported policies that were anything but. I am encouraged each time a Christian in the public eye takes a stand for this man of God. I admit I am dismayed by the hesitation of some of our leaders and the continued talk of running a third party candidate. Any first first Pol. Sci. student knows what a disaster that would be!

I pray that the Lord will continue to bless your work and your family.

Victoria St. Gelais
Ormond Beach, FL

Polarbear said...

This was such a thoughtful presentation of why you support Mike Huckabee. I have liked him a lot, but initially was pulled into the lure of electability of Fred Thompson. I have since changed and given my support for Huckabee. You said it well, that he tries to stay true to God before the GOP or anybody else.
I also think it is encouraging to see him as an example of stewardship of health. The issue of maintaining good health is one of those unspoken issues in Christian circles. It is not an issue of vanity, but of taking care of our bodies as an act of worship to God.
Thank you again for sharing your personal thoughts.

dbonhoffer said...

It is good to see Christian leaders like you and Daniel Akin stepping out on principle to support the man that best represents them rather than compromise those principles based upon electibility. Thank you.

Paul said...

Randy,

Thanks so much for the posting on Huckabee. I learned from it. I've been a supporter of his for about a month now - ever since I saw him do an hour long show with Glenn Beck. I felt like he answered Beck's questions from the heart, and that he was definitely not just repeating rehearsed talking points. He comes across as honest and principled. Thanks also for puting links to a lot of additional sources on Huckabee. And thank you for not being scared to speak out. I get the feeling that a lot of Christian leaders are afraid to speak out because they don't want to have to fight for their 501c3 status should someone object. I know a little bit about your history, and so I know you aren't afraid of a fight. Thank you for that!

Paul

HAINAngel2000 said...

you have made me think, this post has made me think! i MAY RECONSIDER who I was going to vote for. The one I was going to vote for has made me kinda not sure, if that makes any since!

Brett Harris said...

Dear Randy,

Excellent article. Thank you for continuing to be an example to young men like Alex and me.

I'm not sure if you've seen the new HucksArmy.com, but it has a great video section that might be useful to you in introducing Mike Huckabee to people.

May God richly bless you!

In Christ Alone,
Brett

Karen said...

Thank you for coming out in support of Mike Huckabee! I have been a supporter since watching the Values Voter Debate in mid-September. (Where Gov. Huckabee walked away with 63% of the vote in the straw poll afterwards, by the way.) Thank you for speaking about the trust you have for Huckabee. I feel the same way, and after listening to him speak most people can sense that he is genuine and speaks from the heart. Recent attack pieces would have us question whether we can trust Mike Huckabee, but after researching them I find that they are full of half truths and have no understanding of Christian compassion. Thank you for your endorsement, may God allow Mike Huckabee to be our next president!

Patricia said...

Thank you. My 16yo daughter and I were able to attend the Fox News debate in Orlando last month and I was very disappointed that Gov. Huckabee did not attend the rally the night before. Quite frankly, I was undecided about who I could support. Not certain where Gov. Huckabee stood on many issues, I had anticipated listening to him speak at the rally in hopes of gaining some clarity. Even so, I returned home following the debate convinced that Gov. Huckabee was the only GOP candidate that I could support without apology.

Now about grandchildren. Are they not one of God's sweetest gifts!!!

Thank you for being a blessing to the Body of Christ, Randy.

Anonymous said...

Randy,

Thank you so much for voicing your support for Mike Huckabee. I grew up in Arkansas when he was governor. He did so much good for that state, and I believe he truly loves God and is not swayed by popular opinion. I am excited to see him run, and I hope that other Christian leaders will follow your example in endorsing him.

Jill B.
Fairfax, VA

Anonymous said...

It's too bad that you can't look beyond those who are lauded in main stream media. By my analysis, there's another candidate with a proven track record of faith and integrity who is pointing the nation in a better direction than Mike Huckabee. Check out the platform of Congressman Dr. Ron Paul, a Christian physician, a strong social conservative, a man who has repeatedly sought to enact legislation in Congress defending the unborn, a man also who knows about the God-ordained limits of government and is calling America back to small, more modest and thus also more affordable government. I think that in comparison to Dr. Paul, Mike Huckabee is an inexperienced wannabee.

Anonymous said...

Randy:

Thank you so much for your comments. You have articulated the thoughts of many of us. I live in Iowa and have had the opportunity to watch Gov. Huckabee up close for the last 7 months. I have been convinced that the Governor has both the character and world view to lead in this difficult time.

One example of this character was probably seen only by my wife and myself. Back in July we had an opportunity to host an event for Gov. Huckabee in West Des Moines. We opened the event not only to our friends who wanted to hear from the Governor, but anyone in the public who was interested. One of the people that came was a recent college graduate from Arkansas. He was a staffer for the Arkansas Democratic Party who had been hired to follow the Governor at all of his public appearances and video tape him in order to potentially catch him making damaging statements. He came to the meeting and taped the speech. Several days later, at the Iowa Straw Poll, I ran into the same young man and struck up a conversation. Curious how the Huckabee camp had treated this clearly hostile audience member, I asked him what he thought of Huckabee. Much to my surprise, he had nothing be praise for the Huckabee Team. He said that they had treated him like family and had made sure that he was taken care of during each stop. The Governor had even learned that he played guitar and had taken some time to play with him. He ended by saying, that while he didn’t agree with him on many of his political stances he felt like Huckabee was an kind and honorable man.

It says a lot about a person when you treat your opponents like family, even when no one is watching. I am sure that it is authentic Christian character shining through.

In Christ,
Scott B.
Des Moines Iowa

D.R. Schmidt said...

Randy,

I have respected your opinions and reasoning ever since I was introduced to your books. Your character and commmitment to your values is admirable. Your decision and reasons to support Gov. Mike Huckabee are excellent and I glad that you are willing to stand up for what is right.

Take care, God bless, and keep up the good work!
David

Brian said...

Mr. Alcorn,

Thank you for your thoughts. I agree that Huckabee is a remarkably respectable man. However, I agree with one of the other people who posted here (Anonymous) who endorses Dr. Ron Paul. He had been adamantly pro-life for his whole career (both as a doctor and a congressman). He is very fiscally conservative and very militarily conservative. Like Huckabee, he responds clearly to questions about his faith and policies. The primary difference between the two is their position on the war. If you support us remaining in Iraq, you should vote Huckabee. If you are against our presence in Iraq (which in light of the Constitution and U.S. History, is morally and politically wrong), then you should vote Ron Paul.

Thanks so much for your ministry. Your writings on abortion and birth control have had a HUGE impact on me and my wife.

ThinkAware said...

Randy,

I've been reading your books for a long time (and getting so much out of them). Imagine my delight to hear that you are endorsing Mike Huckabee as a private citizen. I am glad that you decided to express your thoughts about it on your non-political blog. Thank you for doing so, and for doing it so well. I plan on linking to this left and right!. Mostly right. (I'm not exactly great with humor!)

Treva

Shane Trammel said...

Has anyone read this blog post by
Chuck Baldwin:

Chuck Baldwin on Huckabee

Shamgar said...

I actually did brush through that old article that you linked to and it was actually fairly good. I agreed with a lot of it, and in fact I find it prophetic in many ways.

Conservatism very much did become a false god of much of conservative Christianity. We wrap churches in the flag on veteran holidays and the fourth of July, singing songs of worship and praise to the state. We have their flag(s) flying from most of our congregational platforms right next to the cross.

And many consider voting republican - good or bad - and supporting whatever candidate they put forward as a test of orthodoxy. Distasteful in the extreme.

Further, as I've said elsewhere, regardless of my dislike for Hucakbee as a candidate - I am thrilled with the fact that more and more Christians are waking up to the fact that we don't have to swallow whatever garbage (aka Rudy) the republican establishment puts on our plate. I'm thrilled that so many are rejecting the 'vote for the electable candidate' baloney.

Personally, I'd rather you all support Ron, but at least we're getting more and more Christians back on the track of actually thinking about what they want out of their leaders and not just checking the box marked R and considering it done. That's a huge step in the right direction.

All that said, it seems like maybe you have confused some issues. Since the writing of your article you linked to above, maybe you've forgotten that the command to care for the poor and the windows and the orphans was given to the Church, and to each of us as individual members. It was not given to the government. It is irresponsible to try to shirk that duty on to a government that will impoverish MORE people in its attempts to help, and then only enslave the people it purports to help rather than actually helping them. (Whether that's through a republican candidate like Mike, or a democrat.)

I find it interesting that when faced with a choice between someone who most definitely does not seek to force some kind of anachronistic and romanticized view of a 'godly' america on folks, and one who does --- you pick the one who does.

So, I guess I'm very much looking forward to hearing your reasoning on this in the future posts you've promised.

Alex Chediak said...

Dear Mr. Alcorn,

Thank you for taking a break from your regular blogging schedule to enter the political fray (as it were). I think you are spot on with your support for Governor Huckabee.

Something you might want to touch upon in your follow-up post: Rick Scarborough, in his endorsement of Huckabee, suggested that some conservatives seem reluctant to support Huckabee because they perceive he did not do enough on behalf of the "conservative resurgence" within the SBC, in spite of his significant visibility at the time.

I echo your frustration with Christian leaders withholding support from the best candidates. So I'd love to hear your thoughts about whether the above is playing a factor--and, if so, whether it is a legitimate concern.

Respectfully in Christ,

Alex Chediak

Scott Watt said...

Great blog. Can't wait to hear more. I at one point was supporting Thompson, until I heard him speak and almost fell asleep! I then heard Mike during one of the debates where the question was about evolution. I then began to research Mike and was very impressed. I especially love his Fair Tax support.

Anonymous said...

While the Governor's mansion was being redone, he chose to stay in a triple-wide to save the taxpayers money: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F03E0DB113BF93AA25754C0A9669C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/H/Huckabee,%20Mike

Now that's humility!

Some people made fun of him at the time, but when he won the election, people said, half-jokingly, "well, of course he won, he got the trailer vote, that's half of Arkansas! (The actual percentage, according to the above linked article, was "at least 12 percent of Arkansans."

Juris Naturalist said...

Ask yourself this: Whose responsibility is it to care for the least of these? Is it the government's? Or the church's?

Is it right to initiate war unprovoked or based upon association in the name of a secular ideal?

Is it just to restrict access to opportunities based on one's location of birth?

Responsibility for the least of these is the full and exclusive responsibility of the church. No unbeliever ought to be expected to care or do anything for anyone other than themselves.

It is unjust to use force except in defense of oneself or of innocents, and then only up to the point that the threat is neutralized. There is no Biblical justification for the use of coercion in the name of reform.

National borders and use of passports are relatively new phenomenon. Free movement of goods and people across borders ensures efficient allocation of property and ability. It is unjust to disallow such movement when individuals are willing to pay their own way.

Huckabee is on the wrong side of all three of these issues, while Ron Paul is on the right side of them, is a committed Christian, and is pro-life.
He alone has voted his conscious consistently in Congress for a good period of time.

Nathanael Snow
ndsnow@gmail.com

Jess said...

Praise the Lord!

I am so thankful that some in the evangelical community are getting behind a man whose integrity is firm and who has the strongest record of pro-life beliefs put into action.

I could say so much more, but I'll just say this: thank you so much for speaking out now, rather than griping about it later! I fear that many so-called "Christian leaders" will be doing the latter. I have always respected you, Mr. Alcorn, and this day is no exception.

~Jess @ Making Home

Joe said...

Hey Shane,

First, for people who'd like to see Mike themselves:

HucksArmy.com Video Section

Now, the false accusations in that Chuck Baldwin article are almost too many to count (or respond to with dignity):

On immigration:

The Facts on Huckabee and Immigration

Chuck Norris Responds

State Legislator on Huckabee

Video: Huckabee on Immigration

On his fiscal conservatism:

A Rebuttal of the CFG

A Theory on the CFG Attacks

On the John Fund piece:

The Roebuck Report Responds

On the Arkansas GOP in shambles:

Response to Paul Weyrich

The Arkansas GOP Leadership Team

On Scarborough and Mike's time in the SBC:

Why I Am Endorsing Mike Huckabee

Shane Vander Hart said...

Great post Randy! I didn't realize you had a blog I've enjoyed a number of your books and am glad to see that we both support Mike Huckabee.

Matt & Sharon Mormance said...

Thanks Randy! I always appreciate your honesty and critical thinking.

Brandon Smith said...

Hey Randy, great information, I'm a big supporter of your ministry.

I must confess I didn't really understand your point on politics at the beginning nor did I think it necessary to post the credibility of the attorney who was against your efforts to reveal the truth. Just seeking understanding on that...

Zach said...

Regarding abortion & voting:

As Piper put it, a single issue cannot qualify anyone for office, but a single issue can disqualify someone from office.

Bill's Waste of Air said...

Randy,
I agree with your thoughts, however, it is early and Christian Conservatives must decide on who is best to beat Hillary.
That is THE most important point.
Huckabee is great, but he WILL not beat Hillary.
Whomever wins the Republican nomination must be supported by ALL Republicans. If we step back because we don't like the candidate we as Christian will be voting in Hillary Clinton.
This CANNOT happen.
See my blog for more on this issue.

PS: Pat Robertson just endorsed, formally, Rudy Giuliani. I would love your thoughts on that.

Nick VanWingerden said...

A politician who believes in the bible but does not follow the constitution is no better than a dictator if he has no respect for freedom and liberty that both documents espouse on mankind. In essence, if he doesn’t follow the constitution then I have little belief that he’ll follow the bible (which is of a higher regard) when it comes to hard choices.

I respect Huckabee as a Christian but I have little respect for his history as a politician. His ten-year economic-policy record as the governor of Arkansas is mixed, at best. His history includes numerous tax hikes, ballooning government spending, and increased regulation.

To me, Huckabee seems to think that government must play the role of God by doing more for the people where God has not provided. Those that think the government must do more and provide more, in my mind, are basically espousing to the idea that we can have heaven on earth and that we can form our idol of government into the perfect solution to provide that heaven on earth, instead of looking to God and our fellow man.

Ben Franklin once said, “This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins.”

Anonymous said...

I am not thankful for Randy's support for Mike Huckabee. An eternal perspective on the election means supporting people who have a biblical vision of what government is all about. We need to be deeply suspicious of governments and candidate who favour the ever-exanding role of government in our lives. To each institution, God has given a role - to individuals, families, schools, businesses and governments - and each institution should stay within its proper bounds. Today in America, government is operating way beyond the bounds envisioned by Scripture and beyond the bounds set forth in the constitution. Mike Huckabee isn't going to change a thing in that regard. Has Huckabee told us how he's going to deal with the deficit? No. Has Huckabee told us how he's going to reduce the terrific tax burden on our citizens? No. Has Huckabee set forth a principled position on Iraq? No. It's all the same old pragmatism that has gotten our nation in the mess we're all in. I say: we need to go back to basics. The only candidate who is urging back to the basics is Dr. Ron Paul. Check out his position.

Victoria said...

I would be a lot more likely to consider someone's argument if they weren't too cowardly to post their name. If your candidate, Ron Paul, is so great then you should be proud to put your name behind him. As to God's view of government, I believe he made Saul, David and Solomon kings. They were certainly men who, at least for the most part, governed by God's standards. Saul turned out to be God's instrument of judgment against the people of Israel and we may be in for such a time ourselves, but to state that God doesn't want governments to be run by Godly men is assinine! Huckabee has certainly put forth his plan for tax relief and his plan for the war on terror. Just because you disagree with it, doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan. I am so sick of you Paulites clogging up the ethernet with your ridiculous parroting of that nutjob's rhetoric! I would rather have Hillary Clinton in the White House than Ron Paul anyday. Next time you want to post, man up and put your name where your nonsense is!

Rob said...

Victoria is upset. She wants my name. Fine, my name is Rob. Does that help? Not really, does it? Victoria is a name but it doesn't tell me much about you. Your comments demonstrate that you haven't actually read my post. I didn't say or imply that God doesn't want government run by godly men. I can't see how you could read that into my post. However, the fact that a man is personally godly doesn't mean that he is qualified to be our president. I don't question Mike Huckabee's personal godliness. I'm sure if there were any problems in that area, we would have heard about it by now. What we need, however, is a combination of personal godliness and humble, political wisdom. This is what I and many hundreds of thousands of other people do find in Dr. Paul's presentations. To call him a nutjob? Well, what I've seen on TV and heard on the radio is a calm, persuasive speaker with a very good grasp of history, economics and world affairs. And to say that you, as a Christian, would prefer Hilary Clinton over Ron Paul, well, I can only say that shows a strain of irrational fanaticism.

Victoria said...

You are right, I was upset and having a name doesn't tell you anything about anyone. It's a symbol of identifying yourself with a person or a cause. I'm sorry if I misunderstood your posting about Mike Huckabee's spiritual condition. That wasn't really my point either. He is vastly more qualified for the office of President by virtue of having been a governor of a state for several years. Only twice, in the history of this nation, has a President been elected that didn't have some experience governing. Governing, not legislating. As to Dr. Paul's being a "calm, persuasive speaker with a very good grasp of history, economics and world affairs", I have listened to him in every debate and found him to be an idealogue whose voice rises to a screech when he starts one of his rants. As a political science minor and a History major, I would also argue with his grasp of history and world affairs. His isolationist tactics have been seen in this country before. They resulted in Pearl Harbor and the unnecessary deaths of millions. Had we gone into WWII earlier millions of Jews would have been saved. I know Dr Paul has no regard for Israel, but most Christians do. You see, it says we're supposed to in the Bible. So you'll forgive me if I question his Christianity. You shall know them by their fruit and I don't see much in him. As to preferring Hillary...better the evil you know than the evil you don't know.

Juris Naturalist said...

Victoria cites the Kings as evidence that God established centralized government. You know that I Sam 13 tells the story of the Israelites choosing kings, a pagan form of government, over judges and rule of law as God provided to Israel. Over the 400 year period of the Judges, there were only 12 instances where idolatry became so bad that a special judge was required to bring about cleansing.
Over the period of the kings, idolatry was much more prevalent, and eventually led to exile.
Post exile Israel returned to a mostly judicial system, which kept them free of idols until the advent.
God establishes law, distinct from government.

Nathanael Snow
ndsnow@gmail.com
(full attribution, both times)

Juris Naturalist said...

Also, Victoria, your eschatology is showing.
God's promises for the people of Israel remain. But God made no promises to a secular state comprised of Jews organized under the name "Israel."

We must try to stop thinking in nationalized terms. America is its people, not its government.

Baptist Fellowship said...

I really appreciate your comments that reflect how throughful you are. I can't agree with you more that though I myself is Christian and republican, I feel often our people appear to be less Christian in our attitude than left leaning atheist in dealing with racial issues and some other issues.
I realize being Christian doesn't necessaryily mean being free from self-centeredness. I somehow see Huckabee being an example for us Christinas to follow. He looks humble, compassionate, genuine, trustworthy, relaxed and caring.

God bles you and him.

Pieter said...

It's disappointing to see this endorsement of a man whom conservative heroine Phyllis Schlafly said, "Destroyed the conservative movement in Arkansas, and left the Republican Party a shambles."

As Pastor Chuck Baldwin says, "Christians Need to Beware of Mike Huckabee."

Baptist Fellowship said...

Pieter!

Concerning Phyllis Schlafly's comment, I thought this is a good article you may be interested in reading. You can go to the site below and from there you may link to their side answer, 2 articles from Mike Huckabee himself and other, which I believe is more reasonable.

Phyllis Schlafly was very important figure at the both Value Voters summits in Florida and Washington D.C., but regardless of her opinion, people who attended there supported MIke Huckabee in more percentage than the combined percentage of all the other candidates.

I understand that talking about politics can offend other without intention. But, I think we can agree that we can disagree without offending or being offended. God bless you.

http://www.kevinstilley.com/2007/10/open-letter-to-phyllis-schlafly-paul.html An open letter to Phyllis Schlafly, Paul Pressler, Lee Webb, John Fund, and Betsy Hagan

Lucas Roebuck's Refutation of the Erroneous Wall Street Journal Article

Mike Huckabee Responds to the Wall Street Journal Article

Anonymous said...

Ron Paul is pro-life!

Joe said...

Pieter, that article has already been mentioned and linked to. But rather than telling you to find it, I'll just post it again:

First, for people who'd like to see Mike themselves:

HucksArmy.com Video Section

Now, the false accusations in that Chuck Baldwin article are almost too many to count (or respond to with dignity):

On immigration:

The Facts on Huckabee and Immigration

Chuck Norris Responds

State Legislator on Huckabee

Video: Huckabee on Immigration

On his fiscal conservatism:

A Rebuttal of the CFG

A Theory on the CFG Attacks

On the John Fund piece:

The Roebuck Report Responds

On the Arkansas GOP in shambles:

Response to Paul Weyrich

The Arkansas GOP Leadership Team

On Scarborough and Mike's time in the SBC:

Why I Am Endorsing Mike Huckabee

Sam said...

For those of you who argue that Ron Paul is the candidate for Christians, let me point out a few things:

1.) Ron Paul believes in evolution. At the MSNBC debate in May, three candidates raised their hands when asked if they did not believe in evolution: Huckabee, Brownback, and Tancredo. Ron Paul did not.

2.) Ron Paul is opposed to the Federal Marriage Amendment and the Human Life Amdendment.

3.) Ron Paul is opposed to legislation that would protect cognitively-disabled people like Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.

4.) Ron Paul is opposed to the enforcement of obscenity laws.

5.) Ron Paul supports the legalization of drugs and prostitution.

If your response is, "Oh, Ron Paul just believes in the Constitution, and he knows its not the federal government's role to enforce those things -- he's still going to take a stand and champion those critical issues" -- wake up!

Ron Paul is a Libertarian first, anything else second or third. He may be a Christian, but don't expect that to influence his public life. He may be pro-life and pro-marriage, but don't expect him to do anything to protect the unborn if a state (like NY or CA) wants to keep killing babies or a state (like MA or OR) wants to perform gay marriages.

In fact, his baffling position on abortion is that it isn't in any way a constitutional issue.

What about the 14th Amendment? "Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

People have rightfully Thompson for his support for having 50 different definitions of marriage and being perfectly fine with legalized abortion as decided by the states -- pointing out that his position makes him virtually identical to Rudy Giuliani on social issues. Ron Paul's position is no different.

His ideology makes him consistent, but it means he'll be missing in action on the most critical issues. Unless of course your support for him has change the most critical issues in your mind from the genocide of the unborn to the return to the Gold Standard.

Victoria said...

Thanks, Sam for explaining Paul's positions that are not consistent with a Christian world-view. You did a much better job than I did. I have to say that I have two very dear friends that are huge supporters of Ron Paul and I think I'm just worn out from trying to show them the problems I have with him. After they watched this video, however, they began to have their own doubts. I have hope that I can bring them around before the election. This is an interview that RP did where he is asked about his views on homosexuality. I hope you find it as enlightening as I did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIeW0DY64bE&NR=1

Recovering said...

As an Iowan who has had a unique chance to watch Huckabee closely this year, I agree completely with your assessment. I'm hopeful Huckabee will continue to gain momentum.

oh amanda said...

Thank you for your post! I've seen a little of Mike Huckabee on some blogs but haven't really known much about him!

schnauzers4huckabee said...

Mike Huckabee is certainly the wisest, sincerest, most balanced and most Biblically sound person running for president.
Finally a Christian of influence uses his platform to sensibly support the best choice of candidates for evangelical voters, thank you so very much Mr. Alcorn.

It is like a resounding gong to hear/see all of these "constitutional reformers" & "thinkers" trying to start something new, who are doing nothing more than ranting the same old junk on and on and on, with embellishments here and blatant disregard for Biblical morality there.
What is it that blesses the heart of our beautiful and sovereign uncreated creator God?
To worship Him in Spirit and in Truth, to live in humility with a broken spirit and contrite heart... to be transformed into His likeness, to be in love with His son, JESUS, to continually seek Him, to be most satisfied in Him, that he would be most Glorified in us... to become happy in holiness and gladly choose to do the will of our Father over our own wicked sinful desires, and choice by choice, by the grace of God and the Imputed righteousness of Jesus, become a pure and spotless bride for Him (Jesus) on the day of His return.
Remember that when pondering your choice for our nation at peril's leader, I ask you.
I tell everyone this in love-
pray, fast, pray more, and listen for the answer-
seek God's will in this matter- remember that until you do, your personal unredeemed opinion is absolutely worthless.
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Some people sure have strong opinions! I thought the Paulites were the most devoted to their man but I'm starting to wonder ... My long-considered opinion, in the light of Scripture and church history, is that the best government is small government, performing the core functions necessary for society to function and no more. In our country today, government is bloated in the extreme. This is what attracts me to people like Ron Paul. Yes, libertarianism has it's own problems. But a libertarian-minded government will give room for Christians to breathe. Also, my long-considered opinion, in the light of Scripture and church history, is that American evangelicals are not rational about the state of Israel. They won't consider supporting a presidential candidate who doesn't give them the warm fuzzies about Israel. Here's what I think about the state of Israel: it's just another piece of real estate in the Middle East. It's not the Holy Land and it certainly isn't the center of the Christian universe. I am a citizen of the Jerusalem above and all Jews who come to faith in Christ share this citizenship with me. If they have that citizenship, what's the big deal about the earthly Jerusalem? Bad hermeneutics leads to bad politics every time. Ron Paul should not be suspect just because he doesn't wish to give preferential treatment to Israel. One more thing that nobody seems to want to touch is the basic structure of our monetary system. Our monetary system doesn't work. Maybe Ron Paul's solutions don't convince people but I sure would like to hear what else we should be doing. It's beyond patching up. We need a basic rethink of how money works in our economy. We better start thinking or it will be too late. And my name is Rob

Michael said...

Hi Randy,

I respectfully disagree with your endorsing Mike Huckabee for President, but I am happy to have you as a Christian brother.


Have a good weekend,


Michael

P.S. Could you elaborate on what you consider to be an "angry conservative". Righteous anger is a good thing.

Baptist Fellowship said...

Michael,

I do believe as you do that there is such a thing as righteous indignation. We know that Jesus had such indignation. But, I think Randy's point is in what you said in your response: "I respectfully disagree with" your opinion. I guest that was the point of Mike Huckabee, which I believe all agree. God bless you.

Bill's Waste of Air said...

All of you are still sooo off the map here.
Neither Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee are going to win the nomination.
So, you better be ready now for what you will do in November of 2008 when Giuliani or Romney are the Republican nominee and Mrs. Clinton is the Democratic nominee.
Will you live and die with the abortion issue? Ok then let's say Giuliani is the candidate. Can't vote for him, he's pro-abortion. So now what do you do? Third party candidate? Might as well check the box next to Hillary cause YOU just elected her.
This Presidential campaign is truly called "Anybody but Hillary". We CANNOT have that person as our commander in chief.
Wake up, forget these fringe candidates and move on to who can actually WIN this election.
Feel free to peruse my blog for more information and vote FRED IN '08!!!

A K said...

Until Christians abandon their collectivist statist mindset and idol worship of big government , Christians will NEVER get Ron Paul's message any more than the Southern Baptist's could get Bruce Short's resolution about public schools. It appears the public schools have done their jobs well when it comes to indoctrination. I guess this generation will have to wander in the "wilderness" and look to the future generation for hope.

Anonymous said...

Amen to A.K.'s comments. Pragmatism kills churches and it kills countries in the same way. Not what we think is possible must govern our thinking but what is right.

Steve Thomas said...

Dear Rev. Alcorn -

I appreciate your convictions and share them. That said, I tend to follow Hugh Hewitt's line of strategic thinking (e.g. http://tinyurl.com/2ptbou) regarding the Presidential race. The candidate must have appeal outside of evangelical circles to win, and he must have the financial resources to significantly challenge the opposition, in addition to the other things we want. I don't think Huckabee can do it, and I don't think he can win against Hillary Clinton.

I do think there is an unfortunate bias against Mitt Romney among some religious conservatives. We are electing a president, not a pastor. Romney has great credentials and shares the values of evangelicals. Why not vote for him, when he has these things going for him AND also has the other advantages I've already mentioned? Christians in America need to examine their thinking and take into account the political process, especially what happens if we don't go with Romney - probably we get Rudy, and maybe we lose the election to Hillary, which I promise would be far worse (think judges, plus a possibly Democratic Congress) for pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-religious freedom citizens. It is a prudential calculus that is informed by principles. We try to get the best outcome we can, realizing that we can't always have everything we want.

In short, I think to advance the pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-religious freedom cause, we need to support Mitt Romney.

I look forward to reading more of your thoughts on the subject.

Blessings,

Steve Thomas

Pieter said...

I think this is the video that may convert me to Huckabee! This is a must-see for every Huckabee supporter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJW7nXw30A

Baptist Fellowship said...

If someone say, "we are not electing a pastor, but president." I would say, "we are not electing a Mormon, but president."

Bill's Waste of Air said...

Two great news items for we conservative Christians to use as help in this election:
1) Former Christian Coalition leader Ralph Reed says that we ALL need to unite behind ONE Republican rather than ONE issue.

2) The National Right to Life Group has endorsed Fred Thompson.

So, start rethinking your vote folks.

Victoria said...

Well, Bill has just proven his pen name to be correct. Obviously, we should all get behind one candidate, but that candidate has to be the right one. Fred Thompson is not that man. I was a member of several groups that encouraged him to run, but I have been forced to change my mind about him after much research. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt over that issue of representing Planned Parenthood, but he has revealed his true nature many times since. He does not think abortion is an important issue. He thinks it should be left up to individual states whether or not a child can be butchered in its mother's womb. I wonder if it should be left up to the states to decide if it's okay to kill our elderly when they outlive their usefullness? Murder has always been a federal issue. If he truly believes that it should be up to the states, then he doesn't believe it's murder. It's that simple, folks. He is not what he says he is. I cannot believe that the NRLC has endorsed him, but if you do just a little homework, you will see that many state right to life groups disagree. These "leaders" in their ivory towers are too far removed from their ground troops. I will not change MY vote because someone else is willing to compromise their integrity to get a photo op with one of the "big guys". Ironically, Thompson didn't even bother to show up for that announcement. I guess they really got gipped, huh?

Lois Clochesy said...

Dear Randy,
Thank you for having the courage
to express your support for Mike
Huckabee. I have been trying to make my friends and family aware of him for the past few months. To be
honest,I have been frustrated by
my Christian friends who are apathetic about the Presidential
Election...one told me he will not
vote because he doesn't agree with
Rudy or Hillary. Just this past
weekend another friend said"Yes,
I like Huckabee but he is not
going to make it anyway." All
I can say is "may God's will be
done!!! on earth as it is in
heaven".
I love your BLOG, your Books,
and hope you felt "better":) when
Piper admitted to struggling
with depression at the DG Conf.
It is part of being a human
being..just like the flu, diabetes,
and stress!
Sincerely,Ruby & Olive's Very Blessed Gramma

Deena said...

"My answer is, yes, IF those who believe in his positions would just step up and support him. (I confess I get impatient with Christian leaders who withhold support from the best candidates because other candidates, including prochoice ones, are supposedly more “electable.” If we’d just, on the basis of conscience, give support to people of God-honoring conviction instead of withholding it, some of them would become electable.)"

YES!! I have been telling others to vote their beliefs, not give up because they don't think their candidate can win...and we'll be surprised at what we can do!!!

Joe said...

Pieter, why don't you try to do something productive with your time?

That video is of when the supreme court handed down a mandate to increase education spending by 90-100 million dollars... There was no way to meet that except by raising taxes or by cutting funding for nursing homes, releasing prison inmates prematurely, or cutting off critical government services.

A K said...

An Open Letter to the Protestant Community in Behalf of Ron Paul

by Laurence M. Vance

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance127.html

Amy's Views and News said...

Wow! Can I make this into a flyer so I can hand it out to everyone I come in contact with? I wish I could publish Randy's blogs in major news papers across this country. I am sickened every time I hear a Christian say that Mike Huckabee is not electable. I heard it on ABC news last night. Christians need to read Randy's blog so they can get a good dose of wisdom, reality and perspective.

Thank you for your time and words. I will send your link to everyone I know.

God Bless You.
Amy

Anonymous said...

I appreciate your thoughts. I'd encourage you to save the comments about the politician with which you have negative church experience for another post, or move them to the end of your entry. At first glance, it appears to me that you are speaking of Huckabee, especially with the text right under his photo. That misunderstanding could inspire erroneous internet rumors, which would be counterproductive.

Baptist Fellowship said...

Dear A K,

I would like you to explain how one can reconcile between confessing Jesus is the Savior and believing in evolutionism. I am refeering to Ron Paul.

A K said...

Dear BaptistFellowship,

First of all, Mike Huckabee should relinquish his ministerial credentials. If you watch this youtube video, he did not know whether the genesis account of creation occurred in literal six days or long periods of time. If he doesn't know that then he is probably not sure that Jesus rose on a LITERAL third day. So to me, his answer is more offensive than someone who has the guts to come out and say they believe in evolution and move on. Even Mike Huckabee said he was not running to rewrite the 8th grade science textbook. you can watch the video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-BFEhkIujA

But getting back , "how do I reconcile voting for Ron Paul if he believes in evolution ?" The same way that I deal with a country and constitution influenced by men who were either not Christian such as Jefferson, Franklin or questionable in their faith such as Washington. The Constitution , in theory, should limit the power of the federal government. Over the years , this principle has been violated by many for the sake of power and money. I want to vote for someone who will take us back to a very limited form of Federal power. With those powers constrained, a Christian has more opportunities to use their resources for the poor, family, furthering the gospel message, etc without confiscation from the government through taxation, inflation and theft of private property. Ron Paul , through his years of service , has the credibility to make that happen not empty words of rhetoric coming from the other candidates

A K said...

An Addendum

Dear BaptistFellowship,

I reread your question and realized that I did not completely answer your question. You want to know how someone can claim a belief in evolution and claim Jesus as Savior.
Many Christians do this all of the time. Some believe in a concept of Theistic evolution. Basically , it is a belief that God started the process and then evolution does the rest. In order to justify belief , you have to abandon the literal six day creation belief and go with the long period of time belief. Theistic evolution ultimately undermines the Christian faith at its foundation because it puts death,disease,thorns and suffering before the fall. Even Atheistic evolutionists understand this better that Christians and know if they can undermine Genesis they have your kids. This explains why 80% of kids including kids who have attended Christian schools abandon the faith. Mike Huckabee's response falls in line with the Theistic evolution belief system that compromises the gospel message. His response should be no more comforting to you than Ron Paul's.

A K said...

Please read the column by Joesph Farah at worldnetdaily.com

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59047

A K said...

Chuck Baldwin article - excellent reading

Christian Right Just Doesn't Get It

Some snippets from the article


"Have you wondered why Mike Huckabee is suddenly getting so much favorable attention from the mainstream media (who themselves are controlled by this gaggle of global elite)? To find the answer as to why a professing pro-life, conservative Christian would suddenly become the darling of the media, look no further than the fact that just a couple of months ago, Mr. Huckabee appeared before the globalist-minded Council on Foreign Relations."

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This also explains why independent-minded candidates such as Ron Paul are forever cast in terms such as "fringe," or "extremist," or "nutty." The same CFR elite that controls the Washington political establishment also controls the New York media and financial establishments. And they hate outsiders! Of course, outsiders are those who do not share the globalist, utopian, New World Order machinations of the CFR.



http://www.covenantnews.com/baldwin071207.htm

Kansas Bob said...

I'd be interested in your thoughts about Mike and his (dis)similarity to our current president. He seems to really be similar to him on social and fiscal issues.. of course he is a much better speaker than Bush.. but do you think that Mike would be a similar sort of president? If not, how do you think that he would be different?

A K said...

One of Mike Huckabee's favorite TV shows - THE SOPRANOS - see item number 23. at the link below
may be this gives us some insight on how he would act as president

Things you don't know about Mike Huckabee

A K said...

For those who don't want to cut and paste the link from the previous post

Here is the excellent article by Chuck Baldwin

Christian Right Just Doesn't Get It

A K said...

An article worth reposting


An Open Letter to the Protestant Community in Behalf of Ron Paul

by Lawrence Vance

A K said...
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A K said...

For those who are confused about what government's role is versus the church then , I point to this article. Some have expressed concerns that Ron Paul would allow immoral behavior. What you forget is Ron Paul would protect your right to preach against immorality

Government Cannot Do Church's Job

by Chuck Baldwin

Barnabas said...

A.K.

I appreciate for your consistency in supporting Ron Paul. However, I consistenly beg you to vote for Mike Huckabee. Thanks

A K said...

Barnabas,

Why do you think Mike Huckabee would make a better president than Ron Paul ?

A K said...

Homeschoolers Beware

H K Flynn said...

Love your books, Mr Alcorn, but I wish you had researched Governor Huckabee's record regarding truthfullness more.

He habitually misleads. An example is that when one earns a B.S. degree in college, and when one's major is biblical studies, there is a sense in which this is a "degree" in "theology."

But announcing repeatedly in his campaign that he has a "degree in theology" is a howler.

I didn't finish college. I'm a six day creationist. I'm for honoring the "stranger" and the "poor." But I don't want my core beliefs represented by someone less honest than the pro-choice candidates. (Like Obama, Romney and Rudy.)

Negative, perhaps, but I don't believe we deserve self-government if we don't wade through the negatives on our guy!!

May God richly bless you, brother.

Johanna

Baptist Fellowship said...

Dear H K Flynn,

I hope your misleading is not habitual. WHen you say,"He habitually misleads. An example is that when one earns a B.S. degree in college, and when one's major is biblical studies, there is a sense in which this is a "degree" in "theology. But announcing repeatedly in his campaign that he has a "degree in theology" is a howler."

But, do you realize that he has a mater degree from South Western Theological Seminary?
Before you make a judgment, make sure that you do study. THanks

A K said...

Well according to this article , Huckabee says
"I have a bachelor of arts in religion and a minor in communications in my undergraduate work. And then I have 46 hours on a master's degree at Southwestern Theology Seminary. So, my degree as a theological degree is at the college level and then 46 hours toward a masters -- three years of study of New Testament Greek, and then the rest of it, all in Seminary was theological studies, but my degree was actually in religion."
No masters degree either. What matters is your interest in self-government - if that is the case then Huckabee is not your man.

COFFEESPOT said...

America is held together by the glue of…..?

Let’s suppose everyone has different answers, not hard to make that assumption if you have visited a coffee house or two. What is the utmost thought on my mind is the importance of the Chain of Command God, Country, and Family. Often quoted, but more often neglected by those who make that their mantra the loudest? Combat veterans know that anyone on their team could be made leader meritoriously or by attrition of battle. They show their steadiness in the heat of battle and during prolonged encampments with the troops.
I am now and will furthermore give my unswerving support for Mike Huckabee.

I am now turning a large portion of my web site into that vein of truth that seeks justice and constancy of faith. I do listen to those that oppose but keep at distance those who works are adversary and antithetical to the Union of this Country.
CoffeeRecon.com

Katie said...

I have a question for you, Mr. Alcorn: Have you heard of Ron Paul and what do you think of him as a presidential candidate? Yes, I know he is in the minority of being able to win, but God can do ANYTHING, right? If enough Christians banned together to vote for Paul, I believe he would be the best president for our country...