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Tuesday, July 01, 2008

Resolved Conference 2008, Palm Springs

Two weeks ago this moment, Nanci and I were flying home after the Resolved Conference in Palm Springs. Coming back to a green Oregon summer was nice after it hit 115 degrees in Palm Springs.

It was fun talking with many of the 3300 people there, mostly students. They ranged from teenagers to early, mid and late twenties. Numbers of older folk (like me; I turned 54 last week) enjoyed the conference too. When I was invited and saw who the other speakers were, I blocked off the entire conference. Even though I spoke Saturday and Sunday mornings, Nanci and I stayed through the end on Monday night and came home Tuesday.

I had some great meetings with students, including several groups from the Master's college and seminary. (Our daughters attended the Master's College and loved it, and we loved it too.) The speakers had meals together, and it was fun discussing theology with John Piper, John MacArthur, C.J. Mahaney, Steve Lawson and Rick Holland.

But to us, the best thing about the Resolved Conference was its conclusion on Monday night, when C.J. Mahaney spoke on Christ's crucifixion (Mark 15:34 - "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"), and then after the break, John Piper tied things together in the final session, drawing from Romans 8.

It was an unforgettable evening, one of the most powerful I've ever been part of.

All the audio messages from the conference are available for free on the Resolved website; videos of the messages can be downloaded for $4 each. I'd especially recommend downloading CJ's final message and John Piper's final message. (These links are to the audio, but if you prefer the video, for the cost of a latte, buy it. Seeing CJ and John will enhance the message, I think.)

CJ spoke of our Savior's cry, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken Me?" And though I have contemplated that amazing cry often, never did it hit me as hard as in CJ's message, when he referred to it as "the scream of the Damned." The place was full of tears and worship.

Then there was break and music and announcements, and John Piper stood up to bring his message. Several of us had prayed in a back room that God would anoint John, and pick right up where He left off in the previous message, and wow, did He. John referred repeatedly to the "scream of the Damned," and then moved into Romans 8. Though much that was glorious happened throughout the weekend, and I had wonderful interaction with groups of students and individuals, that night was particularly unforgettable.

A couple of days after the conference I wrote a letter to CJ and John. I hadn't planned on doing this when I wrote it, but I think God is leading me to place it here, as an expression of how God touched me that night. My letter to these good brothers will be the rest of this blog. Pictures from the conference are interspersed, but don't necessarily tie to what I'm saying in the letter (though the photos of CJ and John speaking do).

CJ and John,

I wanted to send this to the two of you in gratitude (mostly to God, secondarily to you) in particular for the final night of Resolved. I have been moved to tears and deep worship many times, but not in recent memory to the extent that I was Monday night.

Mark 15 and CJ’s “scream of the damned…for us” touched me at a profound level. The Holy Spirit spoke. And though I prayed and knew that John’s message would beautifully end the conference, I was not prepared for the way it happened.

I have never seen, orchestrated or unorchestrated (in this case orchestrated by the Holy Spirit), one single seamless message spoken by two men with nearly an hour between the end of one and the beginning of the other. I stood that night on sacred ground, as did you.

Yesterday early afternoon, in the Palm Springs airport, I opened to Mark 15 and wept again. I then did something I have done only twice before, once on the day my 85-year-old father, in a hospital bed, repented of his sin and surrendered to Christ. The other time when my best friend from childhood died next to me as I was reading to him Revelation 21-22, leaving this world precisely when I was reading 22:17: “The Spirit and the bride say ‘Come!’ And let him who hears say ‘Come!’ Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes let him take the free gift of the water of life.”


What I did on those occasions was write a date in my Bible: Feb. 9, 1992 at my Father’s conversion, and October 8, 1992 at my friend Jerry’s home-going between “Come!” and “take the free gift of the water of life.” The date is still there beside the verse I was reading when he died.

Without thinking about this, yesterday at the airport I wrote next to Mark 15:34, “June 16, 2008.” Then something else happened. I wrote after the date, “The Scream of the…” And I suddenly stopped, overwhelmed, breathless, pen frozen in hand. Why? Because I suddenly realized I needed to capitalize the word “Damned.” It was physically hard for me to do it. It seemed almost blasphemous…and so it should.

The unrighteous damned have no right to ask God why He has forsaken them (the reasons are self-evident to all who understand His holiness and our sin), but God’s Son the Beloved One had the right to ask, even knowing the answer and having participated in eternity past in the damning decision. He is the Lamb damned before the foundation of the world. So while the (lower case) damned will scream forever, ultimately there is only one Scream of the (upper case) Damned. Unthinkable. Inconceivable. And yet it happened…for us.



A flood of tears came as God preached the message to me yet again. That Deity would be Damned. That the God who is called upon righteously by the saints and angels in heaven to damn people, and called upon habitually by unbelievers flippantly and unrighteously to damn people, would in fact damn his Son, would (from the Son’s willingness to drink the cup) damn himself…for us. That it could be said of the Beloved One, “God damned Him,” and that He screamed the scream of the Damned….it was too much for me. It is too much for me this moment. And in the ages to come it will continue to be too much for me.

The cup of His suffering has long seemed deep to me, but never deeper than Monday night and the two days since.

Thank you, brothers, for being cleansed vessels, usable for eternal purposes. It was not only 3300 students whose hearts were marked for eternity Monday night. It was mine. You are not celebrities to me, but you are my mentors, in more ways that I can express. Thank you.



And thank you, Lord, for these two men, who you used as one on Monday night—guard their hearts and empower them to finish well, bowing their knees to you moment by moment, day by day.

And thanks forever to the One who screamed the scream of the Damned…and whose praises we will sing for all eternity.

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

Grateful to be eternally undamned by the Damned,

Randy Alcorn
www.randyalcorn.blogspot.com
www.epm.org

Comments:

Anonymous said...

amazing post Randy!
by the way, Happy Birthday to you! I also just turned 54 in june.
Thank you for reminding us of the ultimate sacrifice that was made on our behalf again..
God continue to bless you and yours!
jackie m
grass valley, calif

Lead_Worshiper said...

Thank you for your post on this conference. I listened to John Piper's message from the conference (it was on his iTunes audio feed), but wasn't quite sure what he meant by scream of the Damned. The second time, I caught "scream of the Damned from the cross" and that answered it, but I wasn't sure. I will definitely want to hear the other messages.

selah said...

May I rspectfully ask you:
1. Do you believe that everyone should live modestly? (would that be $30,000 per year, or $50...or $100,000...or...?

2. How do you measure this? Moreover, Should ALL have the same amount, or are some called to wealth and others not? For example, Esther and Joseph--wealth, and Jesus--"no place to lay His head."

Thank you. in Jesus.

The Seeking Disciple said...

Great post. Oh for more men of God to have the passion for God, His Word, and His presence as these men at Resolved.

SJ Camp said...

Randy
The Scream of the Damned seems like language that is meant to provoke thought, solicit readership, entice questions and entreat discussion - but it is language that is foreign to the biblical record.

Nowhere in Scripture is our Lord Jesus Christ ever referred to as "the damned" - even while enduring the wrath of God on the cross in vicarious penal substitutionary atonement. To do so misappropriates the truth of this great biblical doctrine and does injustice to the very nature of our sinless Savior who was holy, harmless, undefiled and separate from sinners.

As a pastor friend of mine has said about these sermons (which I have listened to three times each): "Substitutionary death is not equal to the damnation unbelievers suffer, it is far superior because it is not due. His cry was not the cry of the damned but the perfectly obedient and sinless cry of the Son to His Father. Amen!

Secondly, could you show me dear brother, where in Scripture where the elect of God, chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world are also referred to as "the damned"?

That word damned is only used three times in all of Scripture; and only used for the unregenerate sanctioned to everlasting perdition. Though we are all conceived in sin, dead in trespasses and sin, by nature children of God's wrath, etc. those who by God's grace are regenerated unto life are not damned previous to receiving the Lord and embracing His gospel.

Consider Romans 9 where Paul distinguishes between vessels of mercy which He prepared beforehand for eternal life AND the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction (v.21-23). He does not say that the vessels of mercy are vessels of damnation...

I admire your passion and enthusiasm for the truth of God's Word and for the ministries of CJ and Piper. But God's truth is preeminent over any person's individual proclivity to be clever.

None of can assign new meaning to words about the nature, person, character and ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ that the Scriptures have not assigned to Him already.

I would be interested in your thoughts.

VIVIT,
Steve
2 Cor. 4:5-7

Randy Alcorn said...

Steve, I concur with the comments made by Mike Riccardi on theologica.blogspot.com, in response to the same concerns you raise here. Best wishes,

Randy Alcorn

Mike Riccardi said...

You're equating damned with deserving to be damned. This is an unnecessary connection. It makes sense that you think this way, though, because usually God does not damn anyone who doesn't deserve it. But that's exactly what makes the Cross so scandalous, and the Gospel so glorious. He was innocent, and yet was damned.

The whole point of the Gospel is that Christ was innocent and even so He bore the full wrath of God that would have been exercised fully on innumerable sinners via an eternity in hell (each!).

Substitution is damnation, otherwise how was He our substitute? If He didn't fully bear the wrath due us (which is nothing other than damnation), how is He a substitute?

7/08/2008 03:14:00 PM

If you're looking for a specific biblical passage in which the words, "Christ was damned," appear, sure, you won't find it. But that's not what we need to find out if something is true.

We're not the first people to speak this way. The title of the collection of lectures on the Atonement by Mark Dever and JI Packer is called, "In My Place Condemned [damned] He Stood," which is a line out of the hymn "Man of Sorrows."

Substitution does not demand damnation of the person but of the sin He is dying for.

Even if I don't like this distinction, I'll happily grant it to you, because Christ became the sin He was dying for.

2Cor 5:21 -- He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Not only was He spoken of as the sin that was condemned, but it also said that He was cursed and became a curse.

Gal 3:13 -- Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us--for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE."

I mean... "Why have you forsaken me?" is a cry of a damned Son of God who never deserved to be forsaken. Like I said before, that's the glory of Christ's sacrifice and the glory of the doctrine of imputation. If that self-authenticating glory doesn't convince you, you won't be convinced.

Our understanding of substitution is empty without being agreeable to the fact that Christ was damned according to the will of the Father for His Bride.

SJ Camp said...

Randy
Thank you for your response. I like Mike very much and he frequents my blog as well. I always appreciate his thoughts on a variety of subjects.

In his comment, you'll notice though, he provided no biblical support for this phrase or the assertions it represents. Biblically, being damned is a irrevocable, final act, of eternal judgment for those who are vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. It is not descriptive of Christ's substitutionary work on the cross. In fact, I would say it is blasphemous.

Isaiah 53 uses language such as: "Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed.

Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief;"

The Spirit of God in penning God's Word never one time refers to our Lord Jesus Christ as being damned or invokes damnation. Does not even hint at it. Why is that? If it is so key to understanding this text, why does not the Author of the text use it - it would have been easy for Him to do, but He does not. For one reason, Jesus was not damned in our place.

He was made a curse for us (Gal. 3:13); He was delivered up because of our transgressions (Rom. 4:25); and died for our sins according to the Scriptures (1 Cor. 15:3). He Himself bore our sins in H\is body on the cross (1 Peter 2:24); died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust (1 Peter 3:18); and became the propitiation for our sins (Rom. 3:35-36; Heb. 2:17; 1 John 4:10). He was our divine substitute (Heb. 2:9; Roms. 5:8-9); but He was not damned nor our damnation. Such language is only reserved for those in hell (

And 2 Cor. 5:21 is referring to imputation not damnation: "He who knew no sin became sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." Not literally turning into sin; Jesus was holy throughout all aspects of the cross even when drinking the cup of wrath. He was our sin bearer or sacrifice. He was neither guilty of sin or sinful. Even in substitution and imputation and justification He was not damned, but God's holy once for all sacrifice for our sins.

The Bible speaks of His vicarious penal substitutionary atonement conveyed in five key words: substitution, justification, imputation, redemption, and propitiation.

No where is the damnation of Jesus on the cross a biblical reality or even remotely a biblical truth.

I guess I would ask you to prayerfully consider that biblical terms do matter. And more importantly, biblical terms represent truth and they are written so by God Himself for our benefit and instruction. Again, why is it that God Himself chose not to use damned or damnation when speaking of Jesus in the atonement?

Words matter.

There seems to be a trend today to nuance or contextualize biblical truth and biblical terms. Whatever the motive, it leads to the erosion of the fidelity of God's Word.

I don't need the truths of Jesus on the cross embellished in preaching for it to impact me. The Scriptures are enough to move me and inform me about the crucifixion and all that Christ did on behalf of satisfying the Father and the redeeming His elect. The need for the shocking, the sensational, the dramatics or theatrics, etc. adds nothing to the real meaning of the text or the cross and usually invokes something that is foreign to Scripture - what I believe has unfortunately occurred here.

You are most kind brother to interact on this issue. I only further respond not to argue, but because of the weight of importance that this essential doctrine holds for the believer in Christ and for the glory of Jesus Himself.

Grace and peace to you Randy in all you do for Christ and His glory.

Steve
Col. 1:9-14

Penelope said...

Randy,

I was so moved by the capsulized description of the conference you attended. Thank you for sharing your heart. I will follow up on your suggestion to listen for myself.

You're in my prayers.

Happy birthday friend,

Penny D.