My blog on Barack Obama's proabortion stance, and the fact that various evangelical Christians are supporting and campaigning for him, has been getting lots of comments, some of them heated.
At the end of this current blog I've included a video of Obama speaking at a Planned Parenthood gathering. But first I want to build up to it. And just to remind us that we are talking about real human beings, I'll throw in some intrauterine photography and ultrasounds along the way. This first one is a born child and that same child months earlier in the womb. Note that the born child is exactly the same human being, just a little older, as the child in the womb. Exactly in the same way that a toddler is the same as an infant, a child as a toddler, a teenager as a child, an adult as a teenager. Age and size and location have no effect on human value and should have no effect on human rights.
So what does the president do that matters? He appoints judges. Lots of federal judges. And in this term of office, almost certainly one or two, possibly three Supreme Court justices. And what will these judges do? They will determine whether to review cases that call into question the legality of abortion established through Roe v. Wade. And the judges will decide according to their beliefs about the constitutionality of abortion.
Based on what they've repeatedly said about the abortion issue, there's every reason to believe Obama/Biden would appoint pro-legal-abortion judges and McCain/Palin would appoint anti-legal-abortion judges. The difference in years to come could mean millions of children's lives.
One of the few things that prochoice activists and prolife activists agree on is this: it will be a potential disaster for the prochoice movement if McCain is elected, and it will be a monumental setback for the prolife movement if Obama is elected.
Now, my question to those prolife Christians who claim there will ultimately be fewer abortions if Obama is elected than if McCain is elected is this: what do you know that those most dedicated to defending abortion rights AND those most committed to fighting abortion do not know?
Why are all of us who haven't just casually said "I'm prolife" but have been dedicated to the prolife cause for decades, and yes I am one of them, saying that we should vote for a prolife presidential candidate and not the most proabortion candidate in our history? Why is every proabortion group, without exception, campaigning fiercely for Barack Obama? Is it possible that all of us who have given our lives to the abortion issue, both for it AND against it, know something you don't know?
Planned Parenthood knows. You'll see it in the video at the end, and the wording of the question to Obama about appointing judges.
In that earlier blog, I linked to an interview with my friend and brother Don Miller, about why he supports Barack Obama. If you haven't read that interview, you probably should before you read the following response to it, written by Douglas Johnson, legislative director of National Right to Life.
Douglas gave us his permission to cite in its entirety his response, which he posted as a comment on the interview website. Take it away, Mr. Johnson:
In this interview, Mr. Miller said, "He [Obama] is also standing up to his own party on the [abortion] issue and moving the party forward to elevate the issue of the sanctity of life within the Democratic Party. . . . I support Obama's plan to make actual headway on this issue."
I suppose these are references to Obama's very recent (post-nomination) talk about promoting "abortion reduction." But anyone who has been paying attention knows that this is nothing more than a short-term public relations "messaging" strategy, cooked up at liberal think tanks, especially Third Way, where veteran pro-abortion activists specialize in developing strategies to help hard-core pro-abortion politicians camouflage their positions.
The problem is that the real Barack Obama has a long and consistent record, and he is firmly committed to an agenda of policies that, if implemented, would greatly increase the numbers of abortions performed.
Here is an example how the real Obama has been "moving the party forward to elevate the issue of the sanctity of life. . ." On July 17, 2007, Obama stood in front of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the lobbying-political arm of the nation's largest abortion provider, and pledged, "The first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That's the first thing that I'd do."
Obama is a cosponsor of this so-called "Freedom of Choice Act" (FOCA) (S. 1173). It is a bill that would invalidate virtually every federal and state limitation on abortion, including all parental notification and consent laws, waiting periods, and limitations on public funding of abortion. Or, as the National Organization for Women put it, it would "sweep away hundreds of anti-abortion laws [and] policies." These laws in the aggregate have saved—are saving—countless lives.
Cardinal Justin Rigali, in a September 19, 2008, letter to members of Congress, explained with great clarity the sweeping power of the language contained in the FOCA:
"First it [the FOCA] creates a 'fundamental right' to abortion throughout the nine months of pregnancy, including a right to abort a fully developed child in the final weeks for undefined 'health' reasons. No government body at any level would be able to 'deny or interfere with' this newly created federal right. Second, it forbids government at all levels to 'discriminate' against the exercise of this right 'in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.' For the first time, abortion on demand would be a national entitlement that government must condone and promote in all public programs affecting pregnant women."Rigali added: "We can’t reduce abortions by promoting abortion. . . . We cannot reduce abortions by insisting that every program supporting women in childbirth and child care must also support abortion. No one who sponsors or supports legislation like FOCA can credibly claim to be part of a good-faith discussion on how to reduce abortions."
But, you need not take his word for it, or mine. Read what Planned Parenthood said about the FOCA, here: http://www.nrlc.org/FOCA/PPFAfoca-questions-12445.mht
Obama also advocates repeal of the Hyde Amendment, the law that since 1976 has blocked almost all federal funding of abortion. This has been one of the most successful "abortion reduction" policies ever adopted. By even the most conservative estimate, there are more than one million Americans alive today because of the Hyde Amendment—some of them are probably turning out for the Obama campaign's "Faith, Family, Values Tour" meetings.
Even the Alan Guttmacher Institute (linked to Planned Parenthood) and NARAL admit that the Hyde Amendment (and the similar policies adopted by many states) have resulted in many, many babies being born who otherwise would have been aborted—indeed, the pro-abortion groups periodically put out papers complaining about this effect. Obama has also pledged to make abortion coverage part of his proposed national health insurance plan.In this connection, it is important to understand that the Hyde Amendment must be renewed every year, because it is a "limitation amendment" on the annual Health and Human Services appropriations bill. During some years, the Hyde Amendment was preserved only because Republican presidents threatened to veto, or did veto, HHS funding bills that did not contain the language to continue the ban. But renewal of the Hyde Amendment would be difficult if a president insisted that any funding bill that contained it would be face a veto.
Obama even advocates repeal of the national ban on partial-birth abortions, which the U.S. Supreme Court upheld in 2007 on a 5-4 vote, in a ruling that Obama harshly criticized. Indeed, one of the major purposes of the "Freedom of Choice Act," according to its prime sponsors, is the nullification of the ban on partial-birth abortions.Mr. Miller refers in passing to a "Human Life Amendment" to the Constitution. It should be noted that the Constitution does not give a president any formal role whatever in the constitutional amendment process. (An amendment requires a two-thirds vote in each house of Congress, and ratification by at least 38 state legislatures, but not the president's signature.) With respect to regular bills, however, such as the "Freedom of Choice Act," the president's hand holds great power: to veto the bill—thereby protecting hundreds of pro-life laws and saving countless human lives, which is what a President John McCain would do if the "Freedom of Choice Act" reaches his desk—or to sign, as Obama has pledged to do.
Let me close with just one more example of how Obama would "make actual headway on this issue." Across the nation, crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs) provide all manner of assistance to women who are experiencing crisis pregnancies, and they save the lives of many children. Late last year, RHrealitycheck.org, a prominent pro-abortion advocacy website, submitted in writing the following question to the Obama campaign (as part of a candidate questionnaire): "Does Sen. Obama support continuing federal funding for crisis pregnancy centers?"
The Obama campaign response was short, but it speaks volumes: "No."
Douglas Johnson
Legislative Director
National Right to Life
http://www.nrlc.org/
Some have suggested these claims about Barack Obama aren't accurate. In case you're wondering whether Obama really promised at a Planned Parenthood gathering that he would sign the Freedom of Choice Act, check out the video below, or see it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0XIRZSTt8. And please note the reference in the question to the nomination of supreme court justices, which both the prochoice and prolife advocates know to be the most important role of a president when it comes to abortions in this country. Note also the emphatic promise as he locks arms with the largest abortion provider in human history: "On this fundamental issue I will not yield and Planned Parenthood will not yield." (You heard it straight from Obama, so don't be surprised if he keeps his promise.)
"Do this so that innocent blood will not be shed in your land, which the LORD your God is giving you as your inheritance, and so that you will not be guilty of bloodshed." Deuteronomy 19:10
The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did [or didn't do] for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did [or didn't do] for me.' Jesus, Matthew 25:40,45









Comments:
As the mother of a special needs child, I feel it is important to remind people of the long reaching affect of a move toward selective birthing. If you can kill an unborn child because it has a chromosonal difference, an anomaly, or is even not your prefered sex of choice; how long will it be before we move up into babies and toddlers who have a difference. Already, judges have, in several condoned the killing of children and adults with dissabilities. The trickle down affect of these attitudes will move us toward genetic selection. Who will choose then?
Randy, thank you for providing more examples of what a President Obama would provide to our country. We could be effectively setting up America to be the pregnancy death country of the world.
Obama is very clear about his stance on murdering infants in their mother's womb. There is no way that ANYONE can say otherwise unless they are delusional.
Obama is NOT a christian choice. Thank you for pointing this out. I am sending your blog url around the country. We only have a short time left to stop this from happening.
I remain very prayerful about this.
jackie m
grass valley, calif
Amen! Keep praying! "So we fasted and petitioned our God about this, and he answered our prayer."
Ezra 8:22-24
1. Who got us into this disasterous situation?
2. Who recruited and promoted the "idiot" ... i mean pres. bush?
3. Who should pay the price for the destruction of the republican party ...and... the usa?
Answer: The answer is a forbidden word in today's media but if you are not too stupified you can get it ... come on ....it starts with "neo"..you can do it.
That's right ... amerika destroyed by a bunch of spies and traitors in the white house and pentagon who serve only their masters in tel aviv.
Time for a purge??
Amen Stacie!
and fivestarlife, God Bless you honey. You're right, its a slippery slope from abortion on demand for any reason to genetic selection and euthenasia. In China where families are allowed only to have one child, many first baby's are left to die or murdered when they are female.
Teri Schiavo comes to mind about murdering the severely disabled.
Its truely the defining issue of our lives and I can only hope enough people of faith step into the voting booth on Nov 4th and make the 'Godly' choice!
amen!
jackie m
grass valley, calif
Amen! I am an advocate counselor at a CPC in Dallas. I have been posting similiar topics on my blog www.xanga.com/Raising_Godly_Kiddos
I enjoyed reading your dialogue about debating with a dear friend. I, too, have been discussing the issue with my prolife friends who are voting for Obama. It has proven frustrating at times, but I always try to remember...I have truth on my side.
I will be sure to post a link to your blog because I greatly respect your prolife views.
Keep up the good work!
I agree with fivestarlife. I just said the other day how once you give an inch you must be prepared to give up more down the road. If we can kill them in the womb legally, it's only a matter of time before we will try to pass laws to do away with children who develop disabilities after they are born. According to Obama, it's ok as long as they aren't wanted but many families out there would adopt. And above all, God wants them. We're praying.
I think that people who vote need to know where their candidates stand and if they don't line up with your convictions, then you ought not cast a vote that way. I could not vote for Obama simply because of this issue. I've been getting slack about being a single issue voter, but life is just too precious to me to not be. As a woman who gave a baby up for adoption 19 years ago, I know full well that his life is worth so much to the Lord. I fully believe that we are all created for a purpose, no matter how we were conceived. I am so thankful the Lord gave me strong, pro-life parents who stood strong in their beliefs when I became pregnant due to being taken advantage of. It could have been so easy for them to take me down to get an abortion and then no one would know what happened to me.
Please don't forget about these precious unborn children who don't have a voice in all of this. They are important and they need us to be their voice.
~Karen in Ohio
Don't forget that Obama (and Biden) has gone on record that he wants to overturn legislation like the Hyde & Weldon amendments.
Not only does this legislation keep taxpayers from paying for abortion, it protects doctors, nurses and other health care workers from discrimination on the job if they chose to not participate in abortions.
If Obama and his allies get their way (which they well could with a majority in both houses), the only doctors left in this country (who haven't fled to areas where they don't ever have to interact with even potentially pregnant women) will be pro-choice.
Do you really want the doctor that delivers your child (or your grandchild) to not care if you want your baby to live or not? That's what Barak Obama and Joe Biden want...
Hurry and compose a blog to the under 30's Christians who are planning to vote for a 3rd party candidate in hopes of "sending a message" to the RNC! FOCA could very well be the last nail in the coffin.
Amen Carolineb...
Today's voting young people usually see events through a more liberal eye than they will as they grow up a bit more. When they get older, they will see how our government IS taking our tax dollars and spending OUR MONEY on things THEY CHOOSE. Jesus taught us to be generous with those less fortunate than us, thats a great way to live. However, as Christians we must stand up and put a stop to our government spending OUR money ( as if its their money) to fund things that we just simply do not want, such as abortion. If Mr.Obama does in fact win this election and he does as he has promised, it will be because 'we have allowed it' and I can see God's wrath ringing down upon America as we've never seen before. Hindsight is always 20/20 and it would take us 25-50 years to undo the damage that an Obama presidency would do to America and that is a long long time to endure the wrath of God. I hope todays young people will see Mr. Obama for what and who he truely is and will help to keep this man from becoming the most powerful man in the western world.
I remain prayerful.
jackie m
grass valley, Calif
I don't think I've ever been as frightened of an election as I am now. I know that God is sovereign over all things and that we can and should trust Him, but I fear what an Obama presidency would mean for the unborn. The inability to see these babies as humans worthy of rights makes me deeply sad while at the same time enrages me with anger.
As an expectant first time father I'm horrified to know that there are confessing Christians willing to vote for Obama. As Doug Wilson has said in recent days, "Evangelicals who support Obama have been struck with a judicial blindness. This is not a thing that they are doing that will result in God's displeasure later on. It is a sign of God's displeasure being visited upon them already." I would have to agree with that statement. But not just for evangelicals voting for Obama. I think it's also true of God's displeasure with us as a nation and the ungodly things we have begun to accept as the "new normal".
God have mercy on our country.
I am a nursing student who just finished a rotation in labor and delivery. Due to the high-risk pregnancies at the hospital, I saw two pre-term births of babies 30 and 33 weeks old. The neonatal intensive are at the hospital is skilled in helping these babies survive. I can hardly imagine that these same babies could quickly be aborted. My non-religious instructor, who has worked in labor for 25 or more years, once ran across the remains of two abortions - she told us "I don't care what anyone tells me - those are babies."
Yep. God help us.
Here's my little view on this issue.
I don't believe abortion is a right choice but I do believe a woman should have the right to choose. There are cases of rape & incest that could mentally damage a woman just as much as a fetus developing in the wrong place causing serious health risks. Some people say abortion should be illegal except in those cases. From that we must ask exactly who are we trying to protect by making abortion illegal? Illegal abortion looks to protect the unborn not the mother. Are the rape babys, bad babys? I think the same way Obama pointed out in response to the question during the debates. Education should be the answer. If we can develop programs to stop unwanted pregnancies before they happen would be the best solution. It's a problem we as a people should address together by helping and educating each other. We can't fix it over night. Again, education and people helping people understand what is at stake if we act irresponsibly, IMHO, is the path to help everyone equally.
If an older woman, an unhealthy woman or a raped woman gets pregnant and it posses a risk to her health who am I to tell her she must have, (or try), to have the baby anyway, despite the risk? We can't go and say "well except for that, those baby's don't have rights, only the ones when the mother was stupid, have rights".
This is why I have to believe in choice. In the long run, if education works we will save a lot more as a people than forcing unwanted births on women who are physically or mentally not ready for such a thing.
I believe this is the broad case for the pro-choice argument but some might just be mine.
For those women faced with an unwanted pregnancy, there is another option: ADOPTION! The best, most loving, unselfish thing you could do is give your child LIFE and a loving home with parents who DO WANT and WILL LOVE this innocent child!
Am I the only one here who was a little disturbed by this entry?
First off, let me say that I am a Christian, pro-life, and not for Obama. But I am not voting for Obama because of all the other qualifications he does not possess. This is a man with no experience in the executive office, frightening views on foreign policy, and who, in my opinion, will take our already shaky economy and flush it down the toilet.
But abortion has absolutely nothing to do with this decision, and I will tell you why: Because no matter which candidate is elected, nothing will change in regards to abortion. For one thing, abortion is a state by state issue, for the most part. True, it is legal on a national level, but a state could propose a bill to ban it. It doesn't really matter what a candidate's opinion of abortion is.
Furthermore, ESPECIALLY in this period of time, that topic is so off the radar for any elected officer it's not even a blip. Like I said before, the war, the economy, foreign policy...all of those issues are what our president will be dealing with for the next four years. I highly doubt that Barack Obama will put all of that on hold simply to overturn an amendment on abortion.
So here's my point: For the most part, we should not be thinking of elected officials in this manner. Honestly, if Barack Obama had other views I agreed with, I would vote for him. Because when it all comes down to it, any action that will be taken on with abortion has to start with us. You disagree with abortion? Join a pro-life campaign and do something about it. This hot button issue is not something that is to be left up to the president to decide upon, because he won't do anything about it. Roe V. Wade was 1973, people...we've had Reagan and the two Bushes in office, both staunchly pro-life. And NONE of them made any strides to overturning this case.
I firmly believe in the right to life, but there are many things to consider, and they must be considered as a PEOPLE, not handed over to an official. That is what, in my opinion, is mostly wrong with this country today. We have put far too much stock in a certain elected official. George Bush was supposed to be this Republican crusader, his acts God-serving and forthright. But, at least in my opinion, Bush's terms have not been much of a reflection of godliness at all. When you put all your faith in one person to fix the country's problems and don't do anything yourself...when they let you down, what are you doing? Just looking to another person, another term? They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
I'm not trying to bash anyone for not voting for Obama. What I am saying is don't vote for him JUST because he's anti-abortion. As a Christian, I don't think we should vote for him because of a host of other issues that this man is going to implement in his possible term. But looking at the bigger picture, you will see that abortion is not a reason to disregard a candidate, no matter the party, and is instead something that we as the body of Christ should be proactive on ourselves.
Oh, and might I add...you can easily tell a person that adoption is an option for them. But let's look at this on a larger scale: A pregnant teenager can be kicked out of her school for being pregnant. I have seen this firsthand in some of my classmates...and I attended a Christian high school. (That's really showing the love of Christ, huh?)
There are many other problems a woman can face from this...discrimination and job loss, lack of medical bills to care for her unborn during the pregnancy...but also look at the adoption rate in this country. There are children going to terrible homes, or simply being raised as orphans with poor education and health care. If we are going to put a stop to abortions, we must also come up with solutions to these problems, and others I'm sure I've left out.
I would like just 5 minutes alone with Barak Hussein Obama's two daughters and to inform them of what their father promotes and to show them these video's of aborted babies and see what they would think of their father then.
My heart is breaking!
jackie m
grass valley, calif
I'm Pro-Life, and I vote.
Wow, some great discussion.
Our biggest fight against abortion will be the lives lived in love and service to women who find themselves in an unwanted pregnancy. Hopefully we can all sacrifice a little more to reduce the number of abortions in this country.
Morally, I can't vote on the issue of abortion alone. Having said that, I despise Obama's position on it.
In response to Alex - you feel that nothing will change in regards to abortion, no matter which man is elected.
In truth, a lot could change. Abortion rights could become even more liberal with more of our tax money funding abortions. Younger girls could be allowed to have this surgical procedure without the consent of their parents. Maybe 13 yr old girls, maybe even younger. What if young girls that choose to have their babies are denied federal assistance when it's needed but those that choose abortion are given the funding for the surgery? There are many directions this could go - probably even many more that we cannot imagine.
Roe vs Wade may never be overturned, but Roe vs Wade was just the beginning.
I would encourage anyone to seek God's heart before they choose their candidate.
Randy, thanks for some clarification on this. As an undecided voter just a week before the election, this blog was a good thing to read.
Thanks again.
Glad to see that you have Just Tell us the Truth video posted here. Thanks, Randy!
http://www.americaschoicenow.com/
To Alex:
I would like to ask you to compare the Supreme Court appointments under Bill Clinton to the appointments under George W. Bush. We have made significant strides with the appointments of Alito and Roberts who both have strong pro-life views.
Abortion is simply wrong and there is no excuse for it. People can keep on making excuses for any and all reasons that one might choose to have one but the bottom line is that it is wrong in every sense of the word.
Please view the two videos at http://americaschoicenow.com/ and
http://www.durarealidad.com/ and send them to everyone you know.
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